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Old 09-27-2012, 03:43 PM
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The chart Kurfürst posted is not a theory, it's a calculation.
True..

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Physics and maths are just as relevant as tests and pilot experience. There are methods that are standard and accepted. If you use them properly, they can be more accurate than tests and pilot experience and are imho at least as valid.
Agreed.. Just as relevant.. If used properly

As you (and others) know the old saying..

Garbage in Garbage out!

With regards to flight simulation..

You can think of the 6DOF flight simulation model as a black box.. With an input (plane parameters and current state) and an output (results)

The math in the black box can be good to go.. no errors.. But if you input bad values (plane parameters and current state) you will get bogus outputs (results)

With that in said..

I don't know if the 'results' of the Me262 or Spit used in the IL2Comp graph Kurfust posted have ever been validated.. As in have they ever been compared to any real world data, or checked by someone else to ensure the 'inputs' are correct.

In short, in this case the IL2Comp values are suspect until validated.. Sadly I don't know of any real world turn time data of the Me262 that can be used to validate the IL2Comp, which leaves only for someone to doulbe check the input values and 6DOF math.
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That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on.
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