now the thread has been moved down to the black hole of calcutta where never anybody looks
its not as if the main forum page is so busy with new posts it gets cluttered, at least give people a chance to get an answer and have it stay in the main forum for a few days 
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President Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953: Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone, it is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children
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