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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Oh yes blame engineers for making an aircraft safe, I mean who would want an aircraft to stay in the air I would much rather have it crash into my garden shed

Were not in a debate over safety here, it's about combat pilots finding a characteristic they enjoyed about an aircraft being neutered because of some officious pen pushing graph monkeys not being satisfied with measured results.

I personally have no gripes with the spanner monkeys and like to keep a good rapport with the engineers in my company, things actually get fixed when you are nice to them.