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Old 08-04-2012, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger View Post
Yes your right, that’s how society works, we are not 'free' in any way shape or form. We are granted freedoms as long as we toe the line and meet our obligations to our society. Even in your definition you are not 'free', you've put in clauses, who gives you the right to infringe on other peoples freedom?

A lot of the debate in this thread talks about the constitutional right of Americans to bear arms. Good on them. With that right is a huge amount of responsibility to see that those guns are not used for purpose that is not intended by their constitution.

How much responsibility? Responsibility to their faimilies that the guns are stored in appropriate mannor. Their children’s lives are at stake if the guns are stored inappropriately and the kids get access to them (gun safety education is really important). Responsibility to their Neighbors. Their neighbor’s lives are at stake if they go arseing about and firing their guns in an inappropriate manner.

Responsibility to the Law. Correct me if I'm wrong here guys from the USA, but I’d assume if you go walking down the street waving your assault rifle around firing indiscriminately you could expect a bullet in the head from your friendly law enforcement officer?

The freedom your talking about belongs on hippy communes and if it was wide spread it would quickly degenerate into anarchy. Simple as that. (Note that the 'Freedom' in Hippy communities was actually invented by old male hippies to get into young female hippies pants, but that is a completely different issue!)

just cuz you cant infringe on the rights of others dosent mean you are not free...in fact you cant have it any other way....this should be self evident...apparently not for you


and honestly you talk about hippies like a moronic red neck, akin to some south park parody...no one cares about hippies this isnt what this conversation is about....and most hippies are socialists...but of course someone like you HAS to bring up hippies to POPO the idea of real freedom, even though it has nothing to do with it....