[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

nearmiss, do you have any sort of ability to distinguish between the historical record and propaganda? Do you actually believe this stuff? Really?

I think right now, this day in time the mainstream media is just an advertisement delivery system. By that, I mean it is not about what they say or report as long as they can keep their customers buying ads.

Youtube and the internet sources are our only really decent prospects for getting viable information. Yes, there are some nut jobs posting, but they are generally easy to ferret out.

It is always your personal thinking that matters to yourself. It is important to think critically and alternatively. Information sources and creditability are frequently overlooked, when we favor the message.

Look, if you guys across the pond want to have your toys - well thats fine. Last time I looked the US was a pretty active democracy and I'm sure if the people wanted to get rid of guns in your society their senators and congressmen would oblige with a bill amending the constitution. That domestic gun sales would seem to be on a permanent upward curve shows that lots of people seem to want them in your society.

Well thats no problem to me as a Brit, it's your call but please, please don't post utter, UTTER b/s about the sometimes tragic history of the rest of the world and link it to some wholly laughable argument about guns=freedom.
That just makes the rest of the civilised world regard you all as a bunch of gun-toting loonies.

As a Brit we enjoy the safety of some of the most restrictive gun legislation in the world - thank heavens!! We just don't need 'em as the chances of coming across someone armed with a gun in every day life are almost zero and we like it that way.

Don't believe me? Here you go;
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25341

Every Brit who posted in this thread stated they were against a relaxation of our firearms laws, even a couple who live abroad did so too!

I can't tell about that, but there are plenty of videos up on the internet that don't mimic your points that are made about gun control in UK. I posted one above.