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Originally Posted by Bewolf
I am not worried about the guy getting his background checked and then a license. I am afraid of the children discovering the keys to the weapons locker, the guy having to sell his weapon for liquidity reasons on the black market, the guy robbing the house of the one having a machine gun lying around, the guy losing his job and wife having a blackout moment. The list goes on.
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You miss the forest for the trees. The point is that fully automatic weapons are a statistical non-entity in crime. Harping on the subject, as some do, merely highlights one's ignorance of the true situation
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Well, now we know, if a criminal uses a fully automatic weapon, he will be the one to end up dead. I am sure other criminals learned that lesson and won't ever repeat that.
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See above.
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Yeah, but with gun related killings in general.
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Once again, forest for the trees. If absolute numbers are the only criteria for determining increased regulation then firearms should be relegated pretty low on the list.
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And that is positive, why....? Most people here come out of an attack with a broken nose at best. Hardly with bullet holes. But then again, even the criminals here know they do not have to expect a gun when they enter a house, and in return do not feel the need to bring their own. Result...lots of people actually getting old, both victims and criminals, both having chances to actually tell stories to their grandchildren.
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"Most people..."???? What about the ones that aren't in your, "most" category? What about the ones that were killed, raped, permanently injured, scarred (emotionally or physically), etc?
I don't feel the need to die so that, "most", people won't.
If you want to be a victim, fine, that's your choice, but don't force me to be one.
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Well, that is the problem with firearms. They are made to kill. That is their only and original purpose. Now when someone gets killed...well, wouldn't have seen that coming.
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Continuing the trend...forest for the trees.
My only point is that the statistics are purposely skewed for shock value and the studies are purposely designed to mislead.
On a related note, including adult suicides is so beyond asinine it can't even be described. If an adult wants to off themselves, that's their decision and they should be allowed to do so.
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If you are ague gun crime only, yes. If you argue common sense of so many households in a country that hardly has a concept of integrated society and the responsebilities coming with having free access to firearms, things look a bit different. This might work in Switzerland, a country that is on one page society wise and actually is amall enough that people get to know each other. But even there you have your eventual madman.
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I think it's pretty obvious that I was arguing gun crime only. Regardless, common sense should not have to rely on lies and misrepresentation.
IMHO, lies and misrepresentation should be left to the ignorant morons (on both sides of gun control).
--Outlaw.