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Originally Posted by robtek

AoA, a more subtle approach would have brought a bit more credibility with it.

So what aspects of the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) report do you consider to be less than credible?

Originally Posted by robtek

Here some observations from Eric Brown:

Regarding the vision from the cockpit it seems youve inserted the lines from the Bf109, as Eric Brown wrote in "Wings of the Luftwaffe" about the 262 at page 243 "View from the cockpit was excellent and every upper part of the aircraft was within the pilot's field of vision."

Nothing was inserted by me, what I posted was directly from the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) that was published in 1947

Originally Posted by robtek

About the brakes he wrote on page 245 :"After lining up the aircraft on the runway, the engines were opened up to 8500 rpm on the brakes, and a check was made that the Zwiebel (onion), as the exhaust cone had been dubbed, was protruding from each orifice. Full power of 8700 rpm was then applied and a quick check was made on the jetpipe temperature, burner pressure, and fuel pressure." NO running take off!

So are you saying the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) was lying or are you saying Eric Brown was lying or are you wordly enough to realise there could have been differences in the Me-262 that Eric Brown tested vs. the TWO Me-262s that the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) tested?

Originally Posted by robtek

About the handling characteristics he wrote on page 252:" The normal range of flight characteristics from aerobatic maneuvres to the stall revealed the Me 262 as a very responsive and docile aeroplane, leaving one with a confident impression of a first class combat aircraft for both fighter and ground attack roles. Harmony of controls was pleasant, with a stick force per 'g' of 2.72 kg (6lb) at mid-CG position and a roll rate of 360 degrees in 3.8 seconds at 645 km/h (400 mph) at 1525m (5000 ft)."

I think if you put aside your knee-jerk need to defend all things nazi for a moment.. And re-read what the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) report stated about the Me-262 again.. You should note they did NOT say the Me-262 wasn't agile and or aerobatic..

The TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) report simply noted that when it comes time to put bullets on the target, at high speed, the hunting/snaking effect of the Me-262 would make that hard to do.. Which is why they used the term poor GUN PLATFORM.

Originally Posted by robtek

About the 'snaking' he wrote that the german engineers managed it better to tame it, during the war, than i.e. english engineers with the Meteor I, which had the same problems.

Ah, good so Eric agrees with the TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE (T-2 AMC) assessment that the Me-262 had a snaking problem

Originally Posted by robtek

And yes, i hope to see the IL2 series again reaching 1945 and beyond.

Agreed 100%