[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by slm

It would be interesting if next game in the series was decided using Kickstarter or similar site. Players could decide which game to support and the one getting most money would be developed.

That would be a great idea. Instead of buying blind and then complaining about unfinished products, we could be given a choice of 2-3 theaters for future expansions, all set up as separate kickstarter projects. The one that gets the most money also gets the money collected for the remaining projects and gets developed.

This way we get to influence what gets developed next and the developers are ahead of the curve financially, so they can sit down and do things properly instead of cutting corners.


On another note...

It's like 3 posts before any new thread takes a turn for the usual kind of discussions. This is a thread about discussing the possibility of a kickstarter funded scenario and of course, people will say their piece of whether they would support it or not. That doesn't mean they shouldn't mind their tone. Irony leads to come backs from another user with a different opinion, which leads to flame wars, which leads to me deleting posts.

Examples (because apparently i need to spell it out despite the fact that we're mostly adults here)

1) "I believe a kickstarter project wouldn't help because according to Blacksix, the team is looking to hire new programmers and can't find enough who have suitable experience. Also, i wouldn't support this project because i am not satisfied with the rate things have been progressing until now."

This kind of comment is fine. It's a personal opinion, presented politely and it's also backed up with some official data. Of course, you don't need to have official sources to have an opinion, it just adds more weight to your argument.

Someone posting like this will also get help from me if he/she is attacked, despite the fact that it's an unfavorable opinion towards 1c and CoD. Being a moderator is not about "cracking down on dissenters", it's about ensuring everyone can have their say.

2) "I wouldn't waste any more on 1C, they'll probably use it to buy vodka. They can't fix anything anyway."

This kind of comment is nothing but a rant with the potential to invite a similarly worded counter-argument from a person with an opposing opinion. It's not ok and it will get the person posting it in trouble.

Funny how both comments say the same thing but one is somewhat insulting and the other is not, right?

If we do the non-insulting part everything will be fine. Let's use our freedom of speech to present our opinions in a respectable manner, not to drown out the freedom of speech of others. Because frankly, this is what's been happening here for quite some time.

When every single thread is moved towards the same topic after less than a page, then you are interfering with the ability of other users to discuss other topics and you are essentially violating their freedom of speech. And this goes both for the so called "whiners" and the "fanboys", whose endless "forum dogfights" are messing with the ability of others to use the forum.

Well, in my eyes all users are equal, so i'm having none of that. If the thread is mucked up and the usual suspects start being disrespectful to each other, heads will roll.

It's been a long time coming and people must learn that in an open discussion forum it's ok to disagree with each other and not waste their energy trying to convince "opponents" through insults and irony, or purposefully drowning out the voices of those who don't agree with them.

Stay within topic, stay respectful and to those that will, thank you for your cooperation gentlemen and carry on, regardless of your opinions. To those that won't, it's your posting privileges on the line, not mine.

Nothing personal, just doing what i'm supposed to be doing