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Originally Posted by CWMV
That's just it though, I see no need for a standard.
For that matter I have no faith in the people who set the original standard. The bias that the original game came with was so overwhelming, and the way they handled any critique or request for investigation/revision (like it was a personal insult/ban them!) inspired me with little faith. Rocket powered Lavochkins anyone?
That being said TD has done a pretty good job.
Let there be a plethora of choice, and let each player choose what suits him best.
That being said I simply do not give a rats rear end about online play so your whole argument is neither here or there for me.
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Anytime there is competition .. in anything.. there must be a standard and a baseline for rules otherwise you have no real "competition" .. to say you don't give a rat's ear about online play is like saying I don't give a rat's ear about baseball.. so who cares if guys use steroids.. Your individual preferences really don't add up to a rat's ear in the bigger scheme of things in relation to IL2 simply because ..
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Originally Posted by K_Freddie
Maybe a bit of history...
Oleg resisted any mods for as long as possible as he had a clear concept about IL2. It's main function was a online 'competitive' air combat game, and in this he achieved his aim.
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Originally Posted by Jones
And that's the rub. You can play pretend airplanes with arms outstretched in your back yard and call it a perfect air combat simulator for all anyone cares or should care. It's a free world after all. But on-line is different. Would anyone even consider playing chess against a human opponent if they did not know their opponent was using the same pieces and following the same rules? Obviously not.
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Regardless to what many have said over the years about online play vs offline play IL2 is where it is today because of online play.. both in terms of overall use and in terms of modded use. Even if many
prefer offline to online.. most got their feet wet in the online aspect.. and then decided they preferred offline.. As for rocket powered Lavochkins.. while some of the Russian aircraft may have been modeled more optimistically for lack of a better term .. I still say that in spite of that ... there was still a level of overall fairness.... I knew people who .. if flying their chosen pre modded mount whether a 109, a 190, a P-51 or a Hurri or a Ki-61, one on one, more often than not, the average and
certainly the noob was going down in flames.. no matter what they were flying.. There were guys back in the day who were killers in the P-39 of the original IL2.. which was probably the most challenging plane to fly in the original, even against Yaks & Las.. because the nature of the beast was such that there was room in the individual FMs to master just about any AC and overcome it's limitations ... Banning? Totally irrelevant to this discussion ... anything that went on on the UBI boards other than interaction with Oleg is ... and as far as banning goes.. oftentimes the decision to ban or not ban was a moderator on the spot decision that often had less to do with what was said but how it was said.. Not too many people were banned simply for complaining .. otherwise the forum would have been like it is now yeas ago.