[tools4fools]

Dunno what you do wrong but certainly something...

50-150 hits usually do in a Do17, Ju 88, BR 20.
The Heinkel is tougher, but 200-250 do usually.
The most needed for a Heinkel is about 500; that's when I hit the plane in 'spay and pray' salvos instead of well placed bursts.

So that's roughly half the ammo then you need.

1) What ammo do you use? Ball ammo is not effective as mentioned above

2) What distance you shoot? Probably to far? When training I have the distance counter thingy on and I usually do not open up until below 200. Means I open up at 180-150 and up close to 100-80 or so. Convergence set at 150m.

3) Position. Never from dead 6, useless. From dead straight above diving vertical is difficult, gonna be lightning fast, have to lead the target, difficult to get target in sight, only a snap burst possible due to very high closing speed. I prefer above and a bit set back, but not too much. Then approach in a nice 'round' swoop, about 45 degrees to the target if possible, but often less than that, I guess 25 degrees. I go into the attack at a distance of 800-1200, depending on the speed, and the final approach from about 500-400 on. Means if my attack position wasn't good and at 500-400 I see that I will end up directly behind the target I pull up and to the side once more to come in better for shooting approach. Hit and miss however as things happen so fast that I don't get a always shot at those last second corrections.

4) You end up directly behind the target - at what speed? When I attack I always end up above and ahead of the bugger due to high closing speed. Fire the burst, pull up (or sometimes down) to avoid collision, and up, up she goes...positioning for the next attack.

I go into FMB, set up one Hurri against whatever bomber and practice, practice, practice...
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Add: After quite a few more test flights I have to say that I haven't been able to set a He 111 on fire so far, no engine fires. Only stream of thin white smoke or thin black smoke and plane going into a uncontrollable dive or said explosion near wing root. But a engine fire, nope, not seen that.
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