[David198502]

good thread!
i want the same like you, historical correct performing planes on both sides!
i fly only 109s right now, and it doesnt feel right how easy it is to fight spitfires.
honestly, thats because i dont fight them anymore, because i feel pity for them, and therefore i prefer to fly on rebka4 and fighting other 109 pilots.

on the other hand, luthier mentioned, that the spit1 will get better performance, so it should not be the way you assume it will be.
the hurri right now, really seems to fast, so i welcome the performance decrease it will get, and the same goes for the spitII.

but i have a problem, that they didnt lose a word about the 109 in yesterdays update, and also the graph of the G50 is disappointing in some ways for me.
not that i regret the performance boost it will get, that it gets more accurate performance, but that there are still 3 curves in the graph they showed us yesterday.

pre patch,after patch, and the real thing.....when they actually use historical data, why the heck cant they just make the plane perform like it really did?i want to only see two curves for all the planes:pre patch and after patch curve which is identical to historical data.

luthier also mentioned, that because of the new gui system they will use, they cant show us other performance graphs....i really doubt it, because how were they able to make it for the g50 then?

also the really vague explanation about the 109 flight model changes, lead me to believe, that in fact they havent changed anything...and thats sad.
again, i dont want to fly a uber plane, but i want it accurate.and please as accurate as possible.and if we all know, that for example the pp of the 109 needed 4seconds to change the pitch 1hour, then i dont understand why they refuse to do it that way, and make it 6seconds instead.

but lets see what the patch brings...

PS:you mentioned the roll rate of the spit should be better than the one of the 109s?
interesting, never heard that before.i was always of the opinion, that especially the roll rate was one of the spits weak points.

oh btw, the red side's damage model is off as well....i have blown up several thanks of hurricanes, and they kept flying as well.one can also put really big holes in spit's wings, and they will still have their lift to outturn one,....and so on, so the damage model has to be looked at on both sides. i especially know what im talking about, since i fly on rebka4, where i noticed, that its in fact way more easy to get down 109s than the british planes.their wings will fall off very often, even when you hit them often enough with the E1's mgs! never managed that on a "red plane".