Chivas said:

>>I've never suggested the sim was in a good state.<<

Rubbish. You roundly attacked abyone ventured any doubts even as it emerged with several decapitated features.

>>I've only suggested that the future isn't as bleak as some would have us believe. <<

Rubbish. Stop going on about the damn future, try the here and now. You must sit down and eat sometimes or have a crap. It can't all be in the future. Or if it is you must have a serious look of hunger and/or constipation.

And that poor dog, still sneezing throiugh all those rose-petals, crashing into walls....

>>Exactly how does a few people constantly repeating the same complaints, that everyone and their dog were aware of from the beginning,<<

It's that dog again.

Yes, just a few complainers. What, no more than 5?

>> make things better, or bring the community together.<<

Liek you do? Some are allergic to so many rose-ptals

>>You know as well as I that some people will never see the forest for the trees.<<

Yup. It's all those damn rose-petals getting in the way.

>>Who knows they may eventually be right, as it wouldn't be the first time an air combat development failed.<<

It failed on release, and it's still failing. That is the problem. It needs to fail better (sorry Beckett)

>>It just irks me when its a group of combat flight sim enthusiasts like us who got together to form Maddox Games that was successful for years bringing us quality products and we turn on them at the first sight of blood.<<

Yes, just enthusiasts with good intentions and bonhomie and the good of humankind at all times. It's those damn rose-petals. never mind that you can be as petty and vindictive as the rest when you hear something you dont like (minus five rose-petals). And how dare you be called on it. Funny, hayward, Aces, carguy, Robtelk et al all have the same reaction.

The Maddox Games you knew, and worshipped, is dead and gone. Deal with it.

I will even buy you some bin-liners for all those rose-petals. The dog will just have to re-learn how to get around.

Ben