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Old 03-22-2012, 02:08 PM
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Do you feel there is less whining, fighting and OT subject now ? That there are less futile and endless discussions about unrelated CLOD subjects ?
Less aggressive personnal statements ?
What I see is the same ole complaints made in the same ole style since April 2011. I would lie if I told you that I didn`t see the whine meter going up in recent days, but I don`t blame sudden stop of friday updates for it. I blame the lack of patch. The beta patch to be specific. I`m afraid that 1C made one too many statements on this one and people lost it completely.

What I think is that nor the style nor the general level of complaints changed. We had some weekly updates, but every single such thread ended up in flames, often set by the same people demanding everything at once. Mind you, not all of them complained about the same thing. There are two maybe three complainer groups who demand different things from 1C.

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The mods are submerged with complaints..So much that they ask us to ignore those comments... They can't handle the forum anymore...
So it seems it is the same as before...But at least before, we had direct conversations with Luthier, we had infos and updates..We felt we were kept in the loop...My conclusion is that the new system isn't working, and now it has become a self inflicted degradation in terms of PR and marketing....
And what did that change. I wouldn`t blame if 1C figured it was to be damned if you do, damned if you don`t. So why even try talking since the same thing happens - aggresive posts about accusing of cheating the customers, completely burying the development plan and threats?

The community had its chance to show support, or maybe just the simplest respect. The community failed in that. Again, as it failed with Oleg Maddox` Ready Room miserably. It is obvious that some folks who have been complaining at 1C to hell and back, do not see any kind of their fault in this.

TBH I didn`t get an impression that I`d got left out of dev loop. All I saw was dev updates got a bit fewer over the time. The 1C`s explanation of running into some problems and working hard on them seemed ok to me. Because in spite of what the whiners say, Luthier always had something for us when he returned with some more info, and update. The banjo thing was a direct effect of whinerfest of people that couldn`t hold their bladder.

Then BlackSix came and said few things, made some good threads. He got flamed in the very same manner as before, when it was quite silent on the boards.

For those reasons I think dev updates changed nothing. We`ve got some people with nasty attitude here, who will always drag a dev update thread into their own personal matters. People just love to complain and make a fuss about it, what has been proven by some of the more vocal persons here on the boards in recent week.

I`d like to have the updates back again. But I don`t blame 1C for stopping them as the community`s promises about calming the mood have been false from the start.