[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Wow, do you have reading comprehension issues or something? Go back over my post again and re-think your reply.

Nothing to rethink, to be honest, and no, my comprehension of english is just fine. But thank you for your insight.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

A lot of us were led to believe that it was 1C Publishing forcing Maddox Games to get the thing out the door in its current state. The understanding was that MG would work hard to fix our product and remain in our good graces. We bought the game because Oleg & Co. had earned a lot of good will from the community, supporting their game for years after release and having constructive dialogue with the community.

And you still forgot the main thing when buying ANY piece of software: Caveat Emptor. Let the buyer beware. It's what the rest of us has learned through bitter experiences, especially those of us that have played MMO's in the past. Yes, we bought a piece of software because we wanted to support a great series. But it seems that many has forgotten the rather MASSIVE issues that the original IL2 had, and has forgotten just how 1C has done communication over the years, especially when under the wings of Ubisoft.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Contrast that to the current situation. We bought their broken game. We're closing in on a year after release, the game's still broken in multiple significant ways, and they're already talking about a sequel. This is the kind of crap that EA/DICE get lambasted for in the media with the Call of Duty series.

It's the same crap that every community has to put up with when the community is outright hostile towards anyone bringing in the news. If you constantly shoot the messengers, and that IS happening here, regardless of how you look at it, they will, eventually, stop sending messengers. It's a fairly simple prospect, wouldn't you think? Hell, I know I wouldn't bother saying anything until things were ready to go out the door in this environment, as it takes far more time and effort to try to calm the rabid hounds in here than to just leave them be.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Before BlackSix was appointed, we had to get our news secondhand from the russian forums, as if the non-Russian audience is the red-headed stepchild of flight simmers. Conversations between Developer and Community could best be described as "frosty", and at worst as "hostile".

Yes, we didn't have much news in the beginning. And we don't have much news now. But with the increased hostility from the community, I can damn well understand why there's so little communication from the Devs, as they know they'll be crucified regardless of what they do.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

You tell me, who's in the wrong here?

To be honest, it's the community, and especially the VOCAL ones, that are in the wrong. Constantly attacking anything the devs say, do or don't say/don't do, personal insults and/or attacks and generally being asshats is who's in the wrong here.

So we've paid a fair bit of money on a software-product that turned out to be not all that great. Big deal. Accept the loss and move on like an adult, and notch it up as a Derp-moment, or live with the choice you've made. Besides. It will be fixed. Eventually.

Sometimes I wish I could distill patience and fill it onto tubes to sell. I'd make a killing on it.