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Originally Posted by addman
Even if they "dumbed" down cockpits in clod and in future expansions it still would be metric miles above any competition out there.
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IMO, the main problem with CloD is really that they gold plated the flight sim part... Sure, a bunch of whiners and "fundamentalists" naturally chokes on a statement like that, but seriously - look at the cockpits of the planes we have in CloD now (and the externals). Look at the damage modelling etc. Sure, it's a dream come through if it would have worked like they wanted it to do, but it simply costs too much doing the sim they tried to do with the current business model. Selling a game for $39 where it takes six months to model a plane and people that are spoiled by the old IL2 series just whines that we only have three flyable brit planes... If they would have done decent CEM, some more "flight sim" details than IL2 and then focused on getting solid AI and FM:s based on the already existing IL2 code it would have been enough... Really. Cause who is the competition? Add a pimped up 3D engine with some Dx 10/11 effects as that is needed to get the attention of the magazines and spoiled kids brought up with Frostbite X and we would have been set... Then leave other suff until addons or expansions. Now we are in the current situation where they tried to do it all at once with 4x the stuff in Il2 and they ended up with a messy code base that has holes like a Swiss cheese, and nothing is really finished as they restarted two times and aimed too high time after time... Oleg pursued his vision and the funders got tired of it after six years and pushed him aside and put poor Ilya in the unthankful position of wrapping something together so all the investments where not lost. They did all they could but still the ghost of Olegs dream haunted them. People demand the product that Oleg had envisioned but it's just not possible with a game that no longer sells copies to try to fix it, whatever people demand.
I really hope they get the good flight simulator we know is buried between the bugs running in BoM and that they don't aim too high again. The ground war part (being part of the ghost legacy of Oleg) sure has the potential of bringing the desperately needed customers to finance the tidying up the whole code base, and who knows, maybe we get to see the old mans vision in full splendor some day? As it is today it's easily the best WWII flight sumulator out there, so why would that change if they just stay alive and manage to fix it piece after piece? The current problem is just all the holes that they are naturally very aware of. But... Adding a flyable Wellington or Fairey Battle will not bring a single new customer as they already own CloD. BoM at the other hand will bring new customers as games based on the great patriotic war sells like butter in Russia - and drivable tanks that actually works with some smart moving front that keeps it focused even though the the map is huge may save the life of the flight sim that naturally is the core of this game... In my opinion at least... Just look at World of tanks. It's huge in Russia as it depicts the eastern front and people there actually care if tanks have the correct guns for different models. Many young gamers have gotten their appetite for tank warfare now and want a simulator with larger and more realistic battlefields etc. They may not go to Steel Beasts Pro, but why not BoM? In the same way the upcoming World of Warplanes may get people to realize that they want a more realistic flight simulation and look at BoM/CloD if they manage to fix it. As the core simulation part of the code is already there I don't see why it would get less realistic, but maybe a bit less details, a bit more spread out like in IL2 can save the game for us?
/mazex