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Old 01-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Luno13 Luno13 is offline
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German planes may have had 10 minutes if WM50, but that doesn't mean it HAD to be able to be used continuously throughout that time.

Your average Mustang has ~25 seconds worth of ammo, but if you held the trigger for that long, the guns would be ruined. If gun overheating were modeled, would you complain about that too?

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Flying as a team seems like a pro's suggestion. But please find me a decent populated stock 4.11m non-arcade server where teamwork can come into play.

What's more, we are talking about purely aircraft performance here. Please keep tactics and teamwork aside.
I think a certain someone here claimed that actual pilot references would prove his point about certain aircraft.... Actual pilots used tactics and teamwork, which go beyond pure performance. Furthermore, the proportion of trained to untrained pilots in the Luftwaffe lessened with the progression of the war, while allied pilots could train in safety. Many rookies didn't know how to get the best out of their planes, and that shows in reports.

And how many pilots got the chance to sit in a P-51 and then a factory fresh (not sabotaged by groundcrew to prevent capture, with all pilot manuals to prevent breaking the engine in a silly way) Fw-190 to compare? There is more subjectivity to those old accounts than many realize.

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Come on, TD. Do you really think an aircraft produced in 1939 (I-153P-M62) is able to give a late-war German piston fighter (Bf-109K-4 C3) a hard time in dogfight?
Hey cheer up! We've all been there, you just need some practice.

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So Papa, do what I did. Take the TA 152 H1, get her up to 1000m in level flight at 530 kph and dont pressure the engine (take a bit to get up to full speed). Then take a small dive to translate a little KE and put on boost and power up to 110% and climb steeply (as if escaping a chasing spit 25lbs). By the time you reach your apex (after about 1870m of climb) and are close to complete stall, your engine will be in serious overheat.
You must remember that the Ta-152 was designed and tuned for high altitude work. Down low, that big wing is just slowing it down.

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P51, the monster of WWII that soared at 12000m escorting bombers and dove on opponents at 900 kph, can be caught in level flight by spit 25lbs and several other uber planes (P51 goes about 550/560 on 110% with boost, and Spit can now catch it, as can the well known 185 M-71 (two of these were made in WWII) at 580 kph).
Are you just trolling on purpose? 900kph is 560 mph. No piston powered war-plane could reach that in level flight. In totally level flight, the P-51 can reach a higher max speed than the spitfire in just about any regime of flight except at and below 1000m. According to Il-2 compare, the Mustang's TAS can reach 710 kph at 7000m. The spit's theoretical max TAS is 640 kph, at 5000m. At 7000m with the mustang, it starts decreasing, to 630 kph, and drops considerably above that.

Remember that the Mustang has practically the same engine as the Spitfire, but is 1.5 times as heavy. The difference in performance comes about through aerodynamics. That said, it takes a longer time for the Mustang to reach its top speed than the Spit.

Your "tests" prove nothing.

Last edited by Luno13; 01-25-2012 at 02:05 PM.