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Originally Posted by OrangeYoshi
Assuming that everything is split 50/50 like Bliss appears to want, there will be 15 109s and 35 other planes on the Luftwaffe side. That's against 50 Hurris and Spits. The slaughter will not be the 109s shooting down the RAF, the slaughter will be the overabundance of RAF fighters shooting down all the bombers before they even reach their target areas.
I love ground-pounding in 110s, Stukas, and 88s. But there is no way I'll fly in a bomber on a suicide run because there aren't enough friendly fighters to protect me from getting shot down. I get shot down because the escorts get defeated and my gunners don't get the enemy before they get me? Fine. I get shot down because the enemy fighters outnumber friendly escorts 3:1 through a mission design decision? Not fine. Nor is it historical. Nor is it balanced. Nor is it fun.
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You're already shot down before you've started your engines, then.
It's a game. You don't KNOW that's what will happen. That's the beauty of this! Nothing is pre-determined. There's no guarantee that the RAF fighters will even FIND the enemy planes let alone shoot them down. So plan a route that you think will fool them. Fly low, fly high, fly zig-zags. If you get shot down just as you say, then be the first to come on here and say 'see? see? I told you so!'
But to dismiss the event before it's been run and before giving it a shot is disappointing. What the heck do you THINK I'm going to be trying to do in my Spitfire I? Waving at you from my open cockpit? You're going to get shot at! Whether it's by one plane or twenty, whether you have 1 escort 109 or 20. You're going to get shot at.
You suggest that if you are encountered by the enemy that it's over. What's that? 6 Hurricanes coming at us? Better wave the white flag. So? Organize to fly with 11 other JU87s. Fly close formation and let those rear gunners tear up the Hurricanes who stupidly attack you flying straight and level from the rear.
There are so many variables here that the plane set is the least of your worries. Instead of pointing out all the disadvantages your side will have, find the advantages.
1. There's no predetermined route. You plan the attack vector. That's a LOT of territory for the RAF to cover. And you know how hard it is to spot targets sometimes.
2. You've got rear gunners in two of those planes. A few pilots flying in a good formation will throw a lot of lead at a plane attacking from behind.
3. The RAF planes are 2 speed props. Many of the more inexperienced pilots will over-rev their engines and put themselves out of a fight in some of the manoevers that are VERY simple for a JU87 or 110 pilot to make.
I could keep trying to think of some, but it's very late.
Just give it a go. If it's not fun, you can quit. It's a game.