Originally Posted by klem
Their are three outcomes of introducing the near-correctly modelled SpitIIa in this controlled way.
1. It gives reds a chance to fly an aircraft that is being denied them, even if on half-reasonable grounds, and I would certainly like the opportunity to fly it on line. That's one 'injustice' resolved.
Not like they are denied it elswhere
2. Until now the 109s have had it all their own way because even with the Rotol Hurricane the 109, properly flown, is king whereas the Spitfire was actually the superior dogfighting aircraft and under the right circumstances could beat the 109 in an energy fight too. It wasn't only the 109s that could play the energy game. The reds have been denied that simply because of the 109 modelling (this is a 109 problem remember, not a Spit IIa problem). At present the currently undermodelled Spitfire Ia versus the current 109 is every bit as bad as an undermodelled 109 versus a current Spitfire IIa. How do you think it feels to know that every time you fly red you are going to lose an even-numbered match unless the 109 pilot is stupid? That's another 'injustice' resolved.
probably about the way it felt climbing into a hurri or Spit in the BoB.
So were supposed to believe that throwing an uber (or rather, correct) aircraft in the game because the reds cant beat the 109 and feel really bad about it? Come now! Thats preposterous. ive been shot down a number of times by very good red pilots, and Ive claimed more than a few 109's in my hurri when I have to fly red.
There isnt a problem until you introduce the Spit IIa. All the other aircraft are undermodeled, sure, but they are all hobbled so no advantage to anyone.
heck if you want to look at it like this, just make blue fly in G50's, would that make the reds feel better?
3. If, post-patch, properly modelled 109s are going to die to properly modelled Spitfires it just means that for a while, until the next patch comes out, a few are going to die a lot quicker than at present. Just for a short while the advantage will swing to the reds (who are usually outnumbered on the ATAG server anyway).
Ah I see, so because more people want to fly 109's they should be punished, got it.
And whos to say that they will ever come out with accurate FM's? IL2 '46 to this day has incredibly bad FM's for some aircraft that havent been remedied in 10 years!
But that is a discussion for another time. this companies penchant for punishing the blue side is something that has been discused ad nauseam.
It may not be great from the blue point of view but flying the undermodelled SpitIa is very frustrating atm because compared with the undermodelled 109 it feels more undermodelled than the 109.
Flying the undermodeled 109 is no joy either. Being outclimbed by a HURRICANE in any situation is just incredible. But again here we are, they are both undermodeled, so no advantage. Sorry you guys feel frustrated, but so do we.
Anyway, given the next patch is imminent its not a big deal.
And no, I probably won't be flying it myself as our Squad majors on Hurricanes, a historical issue for us, and we work as a unit which nullifies the problem considerably.
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