[ACE-OF-ACES]

First thing to note..

Tom does notice a difference
David does NOT notice a difference

So who should we belive?

Answer, neither!

Why?

For all the reasons I have already stated, and the fact that some are seeing a difference and some are not only reinforces the need to log your data during flight

Originally Posted by David198502

well yes i have the oil rads as much closed as possible too. regarding the ball centered...no

Having the ball centered is one of those 'pilot errors' I was referring to.. Little things like this can add up

Originally Posted by David198502

i don't have rudder pedals yet, so therefore i have the rudder set on a hatswitch on my joystick, which is not really precise, because its devided into steps.

Keynote.. not really precise

Originally Posted by David198502

but without changing anything during flight, except opening the water rads, the speed will not decrease.

Its the things your changing that you don't realize your changing that can make the difference, as noted in the Ki61 case, most sim pilots are not holding their altitude as well as they think they are.

Originally Posted by David198502

and i zoomed into the gauges to look if it makes a minor difference. but i just couldn't find any in speed.

Which goes back to that resolution thing I mentioned

Originally Posted by David198502

oh and ace i will not argue with you...you don't have to believe me...

Who is arguing?

And I am not agreeing with you or disagreeing with you. I am simply pointing out the FACT that the error your looking for may be in your nearest mirror

Originally Posted by David198502

you can try it by yourself if you want to, and if you want you can call it pilot error,...i don't care.

And I don't care that you don't care!

Oh, and I am still waiting on your 'data' as in how much are we talking about here?

10?
20?
30?
40?

If you don't know in advance how big of a difference you are suppose to see, than how will you know it when you see it!

And you should take pause here and consider the fact that Tom 'is' seeing a difference..

So with that said..

Are you calling Tom a liar?