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MD_Titus · #**719** 09-29-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

Game > yes
Set > yes
Match > no, as Stern will appear with a different twist to his revisionist history.

depressingly perceptive.
sigh

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Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

72 pages arguing about the word "Defeat"?

Wow, not to be an a$$, but you guys really have a lot of free time.

free time gladly spent

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Frankly, there is no point. I have tried to bring an impartial perspective, but I suppose that I should write an essay on it, and even then you'd still be in denial.

you have done with your very long, very wrong posts. it doesn't matter if you write a large 700 page book on it, if this is a mere taster it would still be spectacularly wrong.

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

The fact that the majority of the contributors here is British doesn't help either, but it's evident how this is an all British thing, and the sentiment for it is as strong as it is biased.

I have been called names, mocked, bullied, but in fact nobody picked up in an unbiased way on the facts I have exposed, and even when pointed to German point of view as seen from an American expert, there was little or no space for discussion, it was all about who can shout in the louder and ruder way.

The bottom line though is that there is an unsuspected amount of people that still believe that only the Germans should be blamed for all the evil, bad and deadly things that happened in WW2.

again with putting words in our mouths. where exactly is that posted? please quote it, references man.

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Originally Posted by kendo65

Stern, with respect, the problem is that many feel your position is not impartial, and strongly disagree with your conclusions. And we are not 'in denial', we are in disagreement. (Your use of 'loaded' phrases such as 'denial' and 'biased' below imply that you have reached a position of complete factual objectivity and that any disagreement is ignorant prejudice.)

Once again your assumptions are clear: as your own viewpoint coincides perfectly with objective reality anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint disagrees with objective reality and is 'biased'. In my opinion your apparent inability to recognise that your viewpoint (or anyone elses for that matter) has at least some subjective elements is either deluded or more likely arrogant.

Again you wilfully confuse 'disagreement' with 'bias'. Those 'facts', or more accurately 'interpretations' of historical events, were in most or all cases disputed or interpreted in differing ways by other people.

I, for one, don't deny that the Allies could be said to have made some doubtful moral choices during the conflict, but I do hold that the Western Allies held a morally superior position in the war to Nazi Germany, and that the attempt of some to establish moral equivalence between the two is misguided and wrong.