[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by winny

Here we go again, evil..? A gun cannot be evil, or good. It's a gun. It's designed to kill. How exactly do you deduce where I 'draw the line' from the output of entertainment companies? Like I said it is irrelevant. Killing somebody for real is always wrong, it might be done for a good reason but it's still wrong.

whereas killing someone in a videogame when you're 12 is ok, right? I'm afraid that sometimes we make the mistake to think that all families are normal, with healthy values and sound principles. Unfortunately it's not the case, and all the youth senseless violence that we have now is also fruit of this de-sensibilisation to it. Remember that kid that killed his ex girlfriend last year with a stone? Comparing how hard it is to kill someone in real life as opposed to a videogame or a movie with his friend, who thought he was joking?

What don't I understand? (You're being patronising... again btw) I don't have to understand anything, it's a matter of choice, regardless of what you think I think.

again, different opinions here, difference is that I say them, you keep them for yourself probably.

It happens all the time, mainly financially, but also in healthcare, education, tax etc etc etc. I don't agree with every piece of legislation passed, and yes, I do just say tough if it's something that affects me badly. I can vote at the end of the day, it's a flawed system but it's better than nothing. The current firearms laws suit me fine. I have no interest at all in owning a gun.

and again, that's your case, but you can appreciate that there are other people that might have a different opinion and want to voice it. It's not like we want to bring war to your country or anything, that's the kinda impression I get when I read your comments sometimes.

At the end of the day you're obviously 'into' guns. Sadly, for you, the vast majority of people in the UK don't care enough about them to warrant a change in the law. I don't see any great public debate on the subject, even after the Cumbria shootings.
As for your 'they're about discipline, prevention, hunting, sport, collecting, and that they always served us great and like nothing else in the defence of our freedom.'
No they are not, they are about firing lethal projectiles at whatever you point them at.

We already talked about this Winnie, I'm ok cos I can still use the firearms I want when I want to, and again mine was a mere consideration of the ridiculous state of the law here in terms of gun ownership, that's all. I respect your lack of interest on the subject, but what I don't tolerate is generalisation, like your last sentence, which is obviously driven by ignorance on the subject (which again it kinda surprises me, since you admitted yourself that you have books on firearms).