[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by tk471138

no the russians believe in communism the key word t here is COMMUNE....that is NOT freedom...living in a commune is not freedom in a commune the idea that, well if my neighbor eats unhealthy (according to ones opinion) it affects me if he/she gets sick and thus i have a right to dictate how they eat cuz it has the potential to affect me...or the idea that, well ones children grow up and their actions affect me, so adults must get a license to have a children, or should have govt cameras in their home to monitor them, or the children can just be wards of the state, because after all the state is the only entity that can raise a child in what they consider appropriate..

you do realize that a good amount great inventions were made not because of peoples intent to get rich, or powerful (while some had this in mind, many did not) you do realize the best leaders are not the ones who lobby and try and get themselves in that position, but those who are simply placed in that position based on their ability and achievement, and did not seek it out....

name some.....and tell me what eventually happened to them.