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Old 08-24-2011, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz View Post
What are you going on about?
That he is not content to turn down his difficulty settings, he would rather want the new realism options to be unavailable to all.
Ok, just joking, no offence meant


It's just that while i do get that people have busy lives and limited gameplay time available, i don't get the reluctance to learn new things in something that's supposed to be a hobby.

Going from European Air War to IL2 had me spending quite some time learning all the new things i had to learn. Going from IL2 to CoD is the same. I just think that many people forget about this and if something prevents them from getting instant results on previously acquired habits they lose their will to remain involved.

Everyone can still become adept at CoD by spending the same amount of hours per week that they did back in the day with IL2. The difference is that when 50 hours meant you knew quite a bit in IL2, it's barely scratching the surface in CoD (you either know a couple of planes well or you can just fly a lot of them but not fight well in them after logging 50 hours) and it's not good enough for someone who expects to join a server and have his first online kill in the sim within the first week while switching flyables on every sortie.

If i list the amount of legitimate features mistaken for bugs that people have mentioned since the day of release we'd need a new thread

That doesn't mean those of us who enjoy those features should suffer reduced gameplay, especially when those features

a) have already been worked on
b) are representative of the real aircraft and
c) can be toggled off.

Nobody's forcing anyone to fly with CEM on, disable it for single player, host/join a server with similar settings for multiplayer, etc and go have fun.

Calling the new features a novelty is like calling accurate ballistics a novelty because i was used to flying red baron 3D before moving on to IL2.


In other words:


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Originally Posted by Anvilfolk View Post
That's fine if you don't like it - you can turn down the settings, but please don't assume that's the way CoD should be for everyone

Furthermore, if anything, the aircraft systems modeling is actually very automated in terms of the actions demanded by the player. What it does is have a more accurate model of engine parameters and how they interact with each other, but there's no actual checklists to speak of.
90% of the time is turn on fuel, open radiators, give it a bit of throttle and press "I" to start the engine.

If that's too much then CoD is probably not the sim for you MadBlaster. That's not a stigma or anything like that and i'm not being a smarty-pants, it's perfectly fine to have your own opinion and stick with the old sim.

People have different tastes and that's why a lot of us like exactly the kind of things you describe as "novelties" and would want even more of them with consequences for mishandling them, that's why i haven't booted up IL2 a single time ever since i installed CoD: the aircraft always operate at full capacity with minimum effort and after sampling the increased pilot workload and the challenges it brings to the table (which also force more realistic tactics and mission profiles simply because people have to account for the loss of situational awareness in high workload situations), IL2 is just not doing it for me anymore.

That doesn't mean IL2 is not good, it just means that CoD is much better (at least for what i personally expect from a next-gen sim) under the hood, despite the initial avalanche of bugs. CoD just needs debugging to do what it set out to do, IL2 would need a major engine rewrite to achieve the same, it's not even a fair contest.

Once again, if it was in the real aircraft and can be modeled in a sim i say go for it. Better to let the players disable a feature themselves if they don't like it, than not including it at all and having players who would like it being unable to use it.

If there's CEM in the sim you can turn it off. If there's no CEM in the sim i can't magically turn it on. It's as simple as that
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