[zapatista]

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

Mr Zapatista, Im afraid you're incorrect in a couple of aspects here... First off, yes parts of the cockpit CAN be removed, but they arent being removed (at least @ the AAA forums). "Frankenstein" aircraft, are not a cheat, infact its no different than wearing your own skin on your own aircraft. All it does is change the look. Every 'frankenstein' aircraft, is built on an aircraft featuring a simular FM/WL/DM to the 'frankenplane' in concept - and there is NO alteration to any of the 'big three' no no's. This means that all that is different, is that the person flying the franken plane see's his tempest, as a tyhoon. Thus there is absolutly NO way that can be constituted a cheat.

except that if you'd actually read the whole thread you'd already know that is not the case.

the few examples i already posted of some of the franken planes had improved visibility from the cockpit, so yes, even using those constitute cheating.

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

Secondly, the 'using anyplane in any server' is something which is not a feature of the 'soundmod hack'. If it is infact being done, it is an additional mod, more than likely one that even out dates the more recent 'sound mod'.

not correct either, but you can try and play with words if you want to spin it in one direction or the other. i'd say the way santa clause worded it avoids most confusion...

Originally Posted by santa clause

This was done simply by using the Sound Hack and downloads available at the much argued about website. No extractor or special java knowledge or tools....just the files offered from the site and no outside link.
The Lerche was NOT a choice in the servers. The violent reaction of the players in chat as they described there feelings about cheating with mods is why several of the ntrks were not posted for all.

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

I personally, however, am in agreement with you in regards to the possibility that the gyro sight and mirror additions, are perhaps rather unfair. AND the only thing I can think of that even vaguely justifies the use of these mods is that, yes, they are historically correct additions.

it doesnt matter if its historical or not, what matters is that people adding bits and pieces as they see fit, and it cant be detected online, nor can it be prevented.

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

As for the changing of default skins, I believe that it was actually possible to do before the release of the sound mod - i remember seeing something around 6 odd months ago about it.

its now a lot easier, and every dog and cat knows where to get the files

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

Now, perhaps instead of just pointing fingers, guys, how about we look into a way that we could, as a community, cap, or even direct, what happens from here...

its a nice idea, but the horse has bolted, and nobody has control anymore of what happens with it from now on