just so you know I am preempting a problem between you (david) and tree as i read what tree wrote before it got deleted and i belive it was not rude or whining etc.

There are some very spitful people here who mascarade as pro IL2 but really they are just as bad as the so called whiners they start fights with.
So I'm asking you out of politeness to not pick a fight to try to get people banned, hiding behind supposed defence of IL2 is no excuse for it (just how it appears nothing personal)