http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=18107 dunno if you have read this before but its a landing turn i created. if done properly everyone will over fly you and you land, they over fly again. max settings. done in the g-10, i reckon it flies better. i can't fly well anymore, im like the biggest noob now after swine flu and a heart attack that caused hypoxia [lack of oxygen to the noggin] and bad hand eye coodination. we have the metric system so i dont know the imperial system, you`ll have to convert the numbers, hope ive been some help, need more 109 pilots