Thanks rob...I get it now...it's all about the sequence right before the tipping point...I will narrow it down to guns or pulling back on stick...and get my timing better...all these tricks I've tried and all have worked. So it's all about the timing...got it...I agree with you about the the throttle thing...that's worked for me too on a few occasions...but funny...but one time I gave it too much and got up to 57 again and what do you think happened...thanks again...cheers to you too FOZ
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