Ok, Im a whiney mother xxxxxx (your words), but you got to be kidding me right, you really think that Luthier may walk away from this because of people moaning about how bad the release is/was? The one thing that has come out of all of this is that Luthier doesn't give a rats ass about any of our feelings, If he did the game would not of been released in this state in the first place, and one more thing, the majority of the mother xxxxxx here (your words) are whining about the complete lack of communication and lack of honesty, this is something that could be remedied immediately if Luthier really gave a xxxxxx. As for newcomers, well call me 'Mr Picky' but wouldn't they be reading the reviews in magazines first rather than try and seek info out on a forum, well let's just hope they don't eh, not one good review, at least on a forum they got people like you!!

The only way Luthier will walk away from this is if the game is unfixable, for every problem solved there's another one cropping up down the line, which seems to be where they are at this present time, they are running around putting out fires that they started. If they release this sim in its current state in the USA then that will be suicide for them and perhaps an indication that they are trousering the last bit of cash before they lock the office door. The only thing i do agree with you on Bongo is that hopefully this won't be the case, Luthier is very 'hard faced' us moaning about his poor product is not going to make him stop wanting to fill his pockets up.