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Originally Posted by Osprey
You mean by lying?
The RAF required crash proof, guncam proof or eyewitness support. Germany didn't and it was convenient for the propaganda machine which the likes of HJ Marseille who took advantage. 17 in a sortie? pah......
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But it was 7 in a sortie not 17
Remind me the story of this schwarm of "aces" in north africa caught strafing the empty sand dunes for claiming back some "easy kills".
Some years ago, a comprehensive, well documented and serious study was made on Heinz Bar : result 120/130 (don't remember the exact nbr - made by German historian I think). While this is significantly lower than teh 220/221 he has been credited during the war It is still an outstanding nbr and tell you how those Experteen had become tigers of the Eu skies when they survived.
But it left too quite impressive evidences about what was the German propaganda in the Luftwaffe.
Funny. I just checked wiki and it seems that his score has been corrected. Sadly the official Luftwaffe score was only stated at the end near the end of the article where most reader won't go with the result of diminishing his actual role in the history of the Luftwaffe.