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Old 04-17-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by roptor90 View Post
Its hard to answer on your arguments mate. If i was able to find any logic in it...

But i try...

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59...CC2C54D2574C7/

Where from did you get 136 meters ?
98 meters then, the first picture u showed the KT was 136 meters away... big difference

98 meters ingame would correspond to around 1300 meters in RL, which is still WAAAY outside the range that the 90mm T15E3 gun would be able to penetrate the frontal lower hull of the KT, with APCR or not.

You also mentioned the 122mm D25T of the IS2 & -3, which was absolutely horrible in the AT role, with a terribly slow RoF and a penetration performance no better than the Panther's 75mm KwK42 when fired against the same quality armor. So why you'd expect this gun to do more than just dent the frontal armour of the KT I have no clue.... oh wait, maybe some obscure Soviet test where they hammered a KT with hundreds of shells of all calibers until the thing litterally fell apart

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Overall info about Super Pershing.

Note length of barrel, 73 calibres to compete with the 88 mm KwK 43 L/71 calibres gun of the Tiger II.
And what am I supposed to use that info for? The length of the barrel is but one part of the equation, what about the size of the propellant charge and quality of the projectile? Seems you're a beginner in this area.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Super_pershing.jpg

In an effort to match the firepower of the Tiger II's more powerful 88 KwK43, the T15E1 90 gun was developed and mounted in a T26E1 in January 1945. This tank was designated T26E1-1. The T15E1 gun was 73 calibers in length and had a much longer high capacity chamber. This gave it a muzzle velocity of 3,750 ft/s (1,140 m/s) with the T30E16 APCR shot and could penetrate the Panther's frontal armor at up to 2,600 yd (2,400 m) ( Panther had frontal hull armor 60-80mm under 55 degrees vertical and 110mm turret ) . This model used a single piece 50 in (1,300 mm) long ammunition.

So i don`t see any doubts about its power mate.
And yet the 88mm KwK43 still outperformed the T15E3 with std. APCBC shot at all ranges, and APCBC has a much longer effective range than APCR, hence why APCR range is lower ingame.

PS: Unless references are provided, I wouldn't trust wikipedia on anything.

Last edited by Bellator; 04-17-2011 at 05:51 PM.
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