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Old 03-21-2011, 05:09 PM
nearmiss nearmiss is offline
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I'm not bashing the Americans. I'm pissed with the gutless persident.
That is not a position for a undecided academician. The president of United States has to be a man of action and a man that has an opinion, not someone that is waiting for the reaction of others, to make up his mind how to act.
I absolutely agree with you that something a lot more dangerous CAN come out of a Libya without Gadaffi.
But the question here is what you stand for. Thugs, dictators that are pretending they like you, or the people?
I'd say the people of Libya have the right to decide their fate, the regime is just too strong and too ruthless and they can't do it alone.
I can tell you that a lot of Libyans now LOVE the western powers that came to help them. It wasn't Iran that came to their aid. This alone can prevent the jihadists from taking power in Libya if Gadafi falls.

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Libya, Yemen, Darfur, Sudan, etc. We can go on for quite awhile pointing to despotic governments that subvert and oppress their own people. Currently the most demonstrative radicalized governments are in the hands of Jihadists.

It would be excellent to think since America is now in the thick of it there would be enough goodwilll and empowerment of the people to keep the radical factions from taking over. Not so, the anti-American media will twist and subvert the message of American desire for Libya of democracy to demogogary. It never fails.

It will take alot longer for people to understand propaganda and relative truth. You would think years of oppression by dictators would eventually be engrained into peoples psyche to vehemently oppose more of the same. Yet, they continue to fall into the same quagmire.

There is a thing about American democracy that even Americans are losing touch with. Individual freedom is what Americans enjoy, but they don't take enough individual initiative in the running of their own government to realize they are going to lose that individual freedom.

Individual freedom can only be preserved by individual involvement in the political process.

The less individual participation, the less individual freedom. There is a direct correlation.