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Old 03-10-2011, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi View Post
+1 the levelling of moaning here is beyond appailing, how dare ppl complain who else would even bother to make a highly detailed ww2 aircraft simulator when you can spit out games like cod and other fps year after year with no upgrades, minimal work and get paid 1000 times more than 1c will for il2 cod and that's after 6 years of development so everyone moaning here STFU and be glad your even getting a product like this and one that is not watered down for consoles
Since you're getting a tad aggressive here let me remind you that
a) steam brings nothing to the table that CoD won't be able to do on it's own, according to the man himself (mr Maddox), so it's more of an option rather than a necessity and
b) it was a publisher decision forced on them and not something they decided by themselves (again, their words not mine).

So, trying to make it seem as if the people who disagree with the decision to integrate Steam are somehow doing a disservice to team Maddox isn't exactly going to fly.

You guys really want to make me look for the exact quotes if i am to stop having to type the exact same reply every few posts , don't you?


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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi View Post
Not gonna happen and it's the fault of hackers that these drm software are in use, it's the typical case of a few ruining it for everyone else.

I think all you need to do is activate the game once install steam then turn on play offline and you can have your LAN game. Inconvenient yes, a show stopper? not unless you are too stubborn to accept the inevitable.
You apparently missed that one. There is already a different DRM implementation for the game called Solidshield, so Steam is not there for copy protection reasons either. That means that even if you like Steam you too will lack the choice to use only Steam, you'll have to use the Solidshield DRM on top of it.

Apparently Solidshield is supposed to be very effective as well, more so than Steam, for the games of which a quick google search will reveal thousands of illegal torrents with an upload date similar to the game's release date.

It's not exactly the safest protection method and i know this from personal experience dating back to 2004 or so, maybe even earlier, and extending to the present day: while working at a webcafe we had valid licenses for all the games but whenever Steam was behaving strange and customers couldn't play, we changed the shortcut links to versions with "workarounds" that made the game playable until Steam service was restored.

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Originally Posted by tintifaxl View Post
All Steam games where cracked on day of release. You can get illegal copies of every game that's out there, so the only thing drm successfully supresses is the market for used games.
Actually, if we can disable Steam but the DRM can't be bypassed it will be a win-win situation for everyone: Solidshield DRM is still in place so the pirates can't distribute illegal copies, the people who like Steam can use it and those who don't can disable it.

I wouldn't be surprised if such a stalemate is reached after a few months.


On a more humorous note...

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Originally Posted by Codex View Post
This whole thread looks like this:



What do you see?
...sorry, but i can't resist answering this one.

It's a glass of water.

It's enough for some people, too much for some and not enough for others.

Maybe it would be a good idea to let them go to the tap and fill it up a little more or allow them to not drink all of it, or even empty some of it into the sink so that, you know, they can actually decide for themselves about the amount of water they want to drink. What do you think about it? Isn't it a neat idea, or should we let half of them parch and waterboard the rest to show them who runs things around here? Yeah, that'll show them progress, i'm going to be the arbiter of their hydration ration for the rest of their lives!
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