I support the Italians surrendering early.
Splitter,
The basic fact is that the war was horrible for almost everyone caught in it, on both sides. However, a lot of beliefs (including one's held on the allied side) made that war possible.
I guess I'm so aware of the horror that people allowed to happen - all sort of people, for a few generations leading up to the wars - that I view the big picture as being decisive.
You might say that I'd hold the moral character of the troops on both sides as being less important than the moral character of the people and societies on both sides. Perhaps not even that, but rather the moral character of what some people and societies were willing to create or to allow to happen.
As for your other question:
I admit that there are some days when I can't fly for blue, there are some when I can't fly for anyone and most days I'm simply using toys that represent technology (and technology I admire). It is a give and take between enjoying the meaning given to the history and getting to close to it. That is how I react.
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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV
Anthony Beevor wrote something of that in his book on Stalingrad. The Germans physical courage wasn't in doubt, but their moral courage was nowhere. I always respected the Italian troops who recognised things for what they were and surrendered. If only 5 million Germans were as brave as that.
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And as wise. Thanks for the quote.
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Originally Posted by AWL_Spinner
There were enough men and women of honor in various uniforms to be cautious of stereotyping a nation, or nations.
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Very true.
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Originally Posted by AWL_Spinner
Ethics? I suspect this thread'll rapidly unravel and get locked really quickly. Or at least it would on a lot of other forums, but we'll see how things progress!
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Yes, exactly what I was thinking. I immediately regretted taking people's advice and creating the thread.
Although the forum is suddenly and inexplicably civil and sane these days. We'll see how long it lasts.