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Originally Posted by zapatista
so yo show a little 20 sec clip of a beta product that had many aspects incomplete or switched of, didnt seven show the sim itself and finished product, and you are surprised the 92 yo didnt think it was very "realistic"
once BoB is released and you put him in front of a big monitor with a decent pc and hotas controlers, and we'll see what he can then provide as opinion
untill then what you posted here is meaningless
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I hear what you are saying, Zap, but I love that a real combat pilot commented on it. I think we all know that the video was not a "real" attack run and that none of us would not attack a bomber formation in that manner. What the pilot said was absolutely correct but like you said, the clip was not a good representation of how the game is played.
Blackdog, my problem with AI gunners is not that they are insanely accurate when they are flying in formation, it is that they are no less accurate when their plane is maneuvering. Even when a bomber is banking sharply, climbing, diving, or TUMBLING, the AI gunner often hits you with the first bullet lol.
In hearing interviews and reading interviews with B-17 gunners, it seems they often gave a a potential attacking fighter a quick burst at long range to scare them or make them change their approach. They didn't expect to hit and do damage at those distances, they were just trying to make the other guy think twice.
In return, German fighters developed different tactics. One was a half roll as they passed the bomber to expose the heavier armor on the bottom of the fighter to the defensive fire of the bombers. Obviously they tried to come in at angles the minimized the number of guns that could be pointed at them.
In the end, we all know that defensive armament on bombers did not do an adequate job of protecting the bombers. When they went against fighters without escort, they got cut to pieces.
So I would argue that AI gunners are too good in IL-2 and will, hopefully, be more realistic in SoW. Sounds like they will. When your bomber is shaking, turning, and diving, it SHOULD have some effect on your accuracy lol. I know that my accuracy with my fighter is not as good when I am doing figured 8's and firing bursts at bombers on each pass while rolling
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Just MHO's,
Splitter