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Old 08-30-2010, 11:49 PM
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Who 'voted not to surrender'?
The war cabinet

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It is entirely untrue that 'they fought to every last soldier over and over again'.
It IS entirely true whether you choose to believe it or not. See Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima. The Japanese fought to the last man in virtually every engagement, regardless of the odds, which was shocking and intimidating to the U.S. troops.

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In the Okinawa campaign, large numbers of Japanese troops surrendered for example.
It was the fierce defense of Okinawa that convinced army planners that an invasion would be too costly.

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I've seen no evidence the Japanese population was any more 'brainwashed' than say the Germans (or even, arguably, than Allied populations).
There's no argument to be had.


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The term (brainwashed) amounts to little more than cold war propaganda anyway - it certainly isn't recognised by most psychologists.
As a matter of fact it is "recognized". The DSM-IV-TR (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) that is published by* the American Psychiatric Association and provides a common language and standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders) describes this dissociative disorder as "states of disassociation" that occur in individuals that have been subjected to periods of prolonged and intense coercive persuasion and occurs largely in the setting of political reform....)


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In any case, regardless of the will to fight on, the Japanese no longer had the means, at least on the Japanese mainland
Iran attacked Iraqi machine gun nests armed with BOOKS in the Iran/Irag War. The will to fight on "means" everything. Brainwashed individuals/groups are the biggest threat to human society and must be stopped by any means necessary if they choose to advance.

For the record, I am of course against all nuclear war and do see your point. You're just not understanding history/facts/reality. I was bored and thought I'd help you.


Oh yeah, Im against the bomb in game too....

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