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Old 07-30-2010, 12:47 AM
axelle axelle is offline
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Originally Posted by Zechnophobe View Post
Yeah, two questions you would need to answer:

1) What is the minimum level you can beat bhaal at?

2) What is the minimum level you can get to him at?

And the higher answer to the above is the answer to the overall question.

I am guessing some sort of 1-stack strategy will work the best. Once you get to probably 2k leadership you will likely be able to beat a lot of fights.

There really aren't many mandatory fights:

Ktahu
Zilgadis
Bhaal
King Telion + Queen (Need for fight with Bhaal)
Singing Dagger fight for Ktahu
Arena fights before Ktahu.
Demenion
Krause (can you fight Krause without freeing the duke delaware?)
Hagni
Spirit of Sorrow
White Dragon
Goblin Leader Dude (for hope)

and then Bhaal

So it looks like 14 total battles? No grand strategy for you!

Oh, you MUST kill the stack on the bridge leading to Montero. So that's one more (probably your first fight actually).

Goblin dude rolls over to Dryads, so he can also be done early for XP.

You'll need to Kite for flags to get leadership for the most part, get the few 'easy' fights too for that. And then get a game with the right items in it.

How big of a stack of Black knights or Bone dragons do you need to pull of Eviln against Ktahu and/or Bhaal? That's probably the operative question.
1, i have a feeling that the must-fight battles probably won't be enough, so you will need to do a few more battles for medals/more level for more runes and leadership/more gold/leveling pet dragon/artifact/wanderer scrolls/whatever. maybe you also need to do 50 fights (easy trash on debir and scarlet that yield little experience of course) to get those extra runes from those usable-after-50-victories items. you probably also will want jimmy as your companion for boss fights for that extra 700-150=550 (550 is huge when you are doing a low level challenge) leadership.

2, you will probably need different set ups for different bosses. for example, baal and ktahu are both easy as all their damages are physical (except the 2x fireballs from imps that baal summons and lizard mages that ktahu summons), but zilgadis will be the key and most important fight, as he can do AoE magical damage as well as physical damage, i am thinking about royal griffin + griffin's banner(yes it affects royal griffins) for zilgadis fight, because with some magic resistance items, all you need to do is stoneskin and mana spring (where as if you bring any other unit instead, you will need to cast divine armor which costs A LOT more than stoneskin) your royal griffin and calm rage while spamming resurrection.

3, since we are kiting anyways, one can maybe use an editor to edit out all the wondering trash mobs, or use a memory editor to lock hero's exp/gold amount and use whatever cheat that let you win fights instantly, because as much as i love this game, kiting is the one thing that i find boring/meaningless/a complete waste of time.

4, i actually do think that this low level challenge is a lot more challenging than a high-level/high score challenge. it requires more skill and as much planning. and when everything (gold and talent runes) is limited, only the true heroes can survive

Last edited by axelle; 07-30-2010 at 01:43 AM.
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