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Originally Posted by Dementia_Seven

Hi there everyone. i play il 2 bob (ps3) since it came out and i have never played some realistic ww2 flight-simulators bevore. First i have to thank the player gordanembru for introducing me into the simulator mode. Thank u!!!

During my playing i unlooked all planes and flew them all till i get to the point that there must be something wrong with the ally-planes. i spend hours of reading through technical reports from professionell sites of the playable planes and was wondering about it totally. so an spitfire was developed bevore a foker 190 but in the game foker got no chance against the spit. why should a older plane be better? for real an equivalent plane to the foker is a yak but the difference in the game is a spit is better than both!!! that would not be bad but the spit reach nearly the same motor power in the game so u got no chance to fly away. the only way to win against an ally-plane when ur flying a german one is to hope there is a noob on the stick but if there is a pro your chances raise to a minimum. it is no advantage to gave the german planes a better weaponary cause that means to much weight for the aircrafts and make them turn just bad.

remember the la5 got a less better cornering than the spit!
1. Why are the ally planes so overrated???
it is unfair! i wont like to use the me-rocket all the time to breake away.

next question...

Why the developers decided to make every mission to a sloughtery of german bfs and fokers??? i´m german and for me it was not understandable how unreal the singel player mode is. there is a mission in which the german 109 planes get shot by a horde of I-16 type 24. that is a bad joke and must be far away from reality! of one german plane came mostly two or three opponents. in every mission u got hundrets of ally planes on the map but there where just a couple of germans who could defend itselfs. Mostly the AI is so stupid it is not funny anymore. so i guessed that the developers are real racists.

and third...

the pc players got a add-on for thier wings of prey called luftwaffe or something. it costs 15bugs or something. the pc-version WOP is about 30bugs. Now remember i payed 50 euro for the console BOB!!! i would love to fly luftwaffe in the singlemissions on my ps3. even the nintendo ds players of that game had one choice.

Why there wont be a add-on for the consoleros who had payed more for only a incomplete game???

to the last one...

the only bomber i have to unlook is the b17. i read about that u should win 30 online strike games on any bomber to get it. now my question is. i unlooked fw190f-8 which carrys bombs. would that plane be declared as a bomber if i equip the bombs??? or did i have to use planes which where only for bombing good like ag20 or arado???

thank u for reading and please do not take my english orthography so serious.

Hello Friend, is nice to read from you on the forum!

Few opinion from me:

1. about plane performance: I think that a good pilot knows his plane weak point as well as superior features compared to the opponent plane, and know how to spoil them to take the battle at his side. You can't expect a 100% flawless plane with no draw back at all.... For example, having more agility, usually mean having lighter wings ( LA5, LA7...), so no gun or bomb on that.. but, plane weight would be lighter, so, slower during dives but faster during climbs. Knowing that would avoid you trying to outclass a better armed plane like spitfire in a front to front shooting confrontation, but your chanche to win against a spit are superior when stuck in a turn fight.

2. Germany during WW2. History told us that axis was "the bad buys" of the war. It's hard to publish a game when you help nazists to win the war and rule the world. I would not buy it. That's why missions are all from allies side. Call of duty and games like that, are also like that. I know this is a very reductive way to say what happened during those years, so please forgive me. So i do not think that the tag "developers=racists" is appropriate. Planes are planes, can't be all flawless in a game. But some german are better than used to be... look at the Komet. That plane in this game can outturn many piston plane, and can climbs 90% angle at more than 500Km/h. Also, you can keep thrusting back and forth the engine power for all the match, from WEP to 0, at will. Fuel will last 10 min. In real, rocket engine was not that brilliant and reliable, reducing power will cause strong backfires, some pilot actually was MELTING inside the cockpit due propeller leaking. ( that rocket engine used a mixture of two string chemicals, hydrazine hydrate and methanol, designated C-Stoff, very dangerous ) as far as i've reading about the komet, pilots actually WAS NOT ABLE to use that plane in a dogfight, due to the highly rocket propeller instability. All the was able to do in that plane was to climb above a bomber at full speed, until run out of gas, flying highter than them. Then, diving like a glider toward the bomber, trying to hit with his very limited ammo supply. And then, try to land back like a glider, with no engine. It was an interceptor. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163 )


Some very personal opinion about spitfire in this game, simulator mode only.

I think that keeping flying just only one plane will surely increase your ability on that machine, but, if you tend to develop only few strategy to win a dogfight, you would be in trouble facing an opponent while flying NOT your favourite plane. Spitfires have incredibly strong and accurate weapon in this game, can climb and turn very good, and are formidable opponent, scoring kills from distance shooting with all that gunpower. Deflection shoots always hits while shooted from a spit. Agility is good also, just make sure you keep a decent speed and airflows on your wings. Spitfire can roll AS FAST AS an LA5 or LA7, if the speed is enough, and if you help with rudders. So it's pretty easy to get stuck into those spitfire... games begin very easy to win once you know that machine. I have discovered that Bf109G2 turns almost like spitfire, if you keep speed "good", but climbs different. Personally i have more fun flying 109 and yaks rather than spitfire, because it leads me to develop and think more about my flying strategy, also, leading those kind of machines force you to have a more accurate flying style, errors are hard to recover into those. Best 109 i can perform in against a spitfire is the g2. Shooting a spitfire down it's pretty easy in a La7...


p.s.: always remember that it is just a console game, not a professional simulator, take it as it is and have fun!! I always do... Key to win 1 vs 1 fight is... SPOT YOUR ENEMY FIRST ( lol )