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Originally Posted by JtD
A vertical turn is a looping, by todays definition as well as by RAF slang back in those days.
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-I'll note what you have provided to back up your assertion: ...
Besides Il-2 Moderator Xiolabu3 defined perfectly well what a "vertical turn" was in those days: Quote (from memory because in a flash of comprehension this "objective" moderator DELETED his own statement...):
"90° bank turns were refered to in those pre-energy days (he then quotes my own "pre-energy" statement in bold here), as "Vertical bank turns" WHICH WAS LATER SHORTENED TO JUST "VERTICAL TURN" IN PILOT SLANG...
Besides that, the context of the text makes it pathetically obvious that this could not be a vertical loop: Here is the ACTUAL text:
"Then we both turned hard TO THE LEFT and whirled round on what seemed to be an ever decreasing circle. With wide-open throttles I held the Spitfire V in the tightest of VERTICAL TURNS."
Please note there is NOTHING OMITTED between those two sentences in this quote: Verify here:
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/471...sononfw190.jpg
In those days anything vertical was not called a turn, period. So JTD, would you care to revise your erroneous statement?
Besides, doesn't Johnny Johnson state at the beginning of the same text: "(FW-190As) They also turned better than the Me-109"?
Also Russian evaluations:
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/t...bat-fw190.html
Quote: -"The speed of the FW-190 is slightly higher than that of the Messerschmitt; it also has more powerful armament and is more maneuverable in horizontal flight."
So ALL these guys are wrong because your kindergarten math disagrees?
Besides, I still think it could have been 19-23 seconds...
And what about this Spitfire pilot?:
-Squadron Leader Alan Deere, (Osprey Spit MkV aces 1941-45, Ch. 3, p. 2: "Never had I seen the Hun stay and fight it out as these Focke-Wulf pilots were doing... In Me-109s the Hun tactic had always followed the same pattern- a quick pass and away, sound tactics against Spitfires and their SUPERIOR TURNING CIRCLE. Not so these 190 pilots: They were full of confidence..."
Result of that fight?: 8-1 for the FW-190As...
FW-190A combat pilot: "It was MUCH better than the Messerschmitt. You could do anything with it: You could CURVE IT, go fast, go high, go low"
But against all that you'd rather take the word of test pilots, especially those of the US Navy right?
Gaston
P.S. As far as opining on a game I have never played, note I have been watching tracks and reading all the forums since 2002, and that I attached "probably" to all my statements regarding the game...
G.