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Old 06-29-2010, 08:10 AM
Stafroty Stafroty is offline
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Originally Posted by swiss View Post
Believe me, I am a former tank cmdr.

what does HEAT do? Fry the crew with fluid copper
What does KE dos? the debris it tears off on the inside of (the armor plate of) the crew department are the projectiles to shred the crew.
Also, you dont light up the ammo, it's in a special compartment with a blast door anyway, but the hot oil of the hydraulics. Yummy, fried again.

Hesh: I googled a sec, sorry, it's German, but you get the idea.


S.o. told me once they calculate about 3crews until you have write off the tank, sounds about right. I talked to an Israeli who joined the IDF after the war, their job was to scratch the former crews from the walls - the tank itself was fine tho(or fixable)
its not fluid copper, but acts as fluid because of really high pressure its having against armour plate when going innit in high speed. same thing bit with sabot rounds fired in test shots. (aluminium against something cant remember) the metal flows in metal. metals acts like they were fluid/melt even when they werent, and just because of high pressure.

there been tests done with heat ammo, cuttin cone in several pieces, shot on water and then extracted, to see if they melt together. didnt.


also, for simulation next to come i really hope that planes are not anymore flying 500kg boms when they explode midair/on ground.

most of my deaths in il-2 comes in this sim just because gettin caught by these monster explosions planes make after i shoot at them. sometimes they ignite to burn while i fly past them, then go boom when they are way behind me, killin me too.

there aint so much to go big boom in plane. not fuel can do such huge boom when its still in fuel tank and not perfectly mixed in huge area with air. fuel tank makes more likely buff, not a real explosion. sure it can rip plane in parts but thats just cause of huge amounts of gasses created but not going with high speed. few 10 meters per sec bout maxium.

also, oxy bottle doesnt make huge boom eighter, to explanate those huge booms they make, pressure is going from oxy bottle to every direction and is reduces really quickly in air. in compressed areas oxy bottle booms are different things. and oxy bottles aint that big in planes as well.

and ammo for guns.
ammo for guns would not go boom easily when they are in wings and fuselage takes the hits.
also, if ammo cooks off, it means the cases of ammo would most likely fly off as they are much lighter weight whan the bullets/projectiles. and as ammo isnt in the breech of the gun it means the pressure can spread everywhere and thus not pushing the projectiles in fast speeds like when fired from the gun.

also, projectiles detonators had safetys to prevent them to explode in their own time. some or most of them needed the fast spinning action made by riflin to get rid of the safetys made inside the detonator.

pls Oleg and crew, check again these unreal explosion damages planes make. there is lots of vids in youtube from plane crashes. using gasoline engines. they make no explosions as bombs do make, but fire puffs, which expanding speeds arent anywhere near the speeds of explosions and thus being able to rip stucture of flyby plane at distances of tens of meters.

Last edited by Stafroty; 06-29-2010 at 08:26 AM.
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