If you can afford it the ace edge (from ace combat 6 package) is a better stick. It is available new from Hori in black for about $300. A cheaper way is to go to ebay and find one to bid on. I looked on Amazon and you can buy a used one outright for $189. I had one that I bid $65 on and lost, then got an email 2 days later saying I could buy it for that price since the high bidder did not come through on payment. The throttle control is a separate unit connected to the stick by wire and has a toggle rudder switch you can squeeze with your fingers on the left hand. The hatswitch will give you cockpit look around and the dpad gives a pan around the plane. The only problem is cycling targets; since the a button is the trigger, the only way to change targets unless the lock on gets shot down is to actually see a different plane and shoot at it (close to it works). Better made than the saitek, and well worth the extra $15 or $20 if you can get it.
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