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Originally Posted by FM_Von_Manstein
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Originally Posted by Nikitns
In just 4 years he was directly responsible for the death of ~23 million people (most of them Soviets), and many, many more indirect deaths.
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The deaths of soviets sounds pretty good to me. I'm pretty sure the tens millions of people that suffered under Soviet occupation and communist rule would agree with that statement. |
I think both of you should try to set your heads straight. You know. Youre not talking about some kind of puppet show with toys but a war and a terrible one at that with the death of many people which fought hard on each side of the conflict. You could at least try to show some respect to those peopole. Regardles which side it was.
But even with all of your love for the glorious Mahnstein maybe you you should also not forget his twisted side accepting the death of millions of jews and crimes regarding the enemy forces and even the own population later when they retreated back to Germany (field anweisungen and orders from the front proved that). Mahnstein was a intelligent tactician. But he was also a opportunist and his conections with the nazi party cant be denied. That many of them have broken with the Nazis when the war changed and did not came out in Germanies favour is understandable but it doesnt change that military Generals have welcome the Fuhrer and his loyal mens as long the army was runing from victory to victory.
If there are men I respect then it are Henning von Tresckow or Erwin von Witzleben who have from the far begining in 1933~36 seen the danger coming from Hitler and his party and started to get some opposition against him. While no one of them have been democrats they had some kind of honor. That for sure. I would even go so far to say that Rommel was a men that deserved much respect. But even he was more or less just a oportunist. Many of them had a lot to gain from the Nazis and as long they seen victories all was fine.
I am not surprised anymore from the strange ideals and thoughts people throw around in WW2 forums anymore either cause of stubborn feelings and false honor for the German Reich or of sher ignorance about the topic. What I am surprised is how this topic isnt still closed yet.