thanks pope...i guess i just have to mess with my sensitivities....i may not have adjusted them before. use of the rudder was the way i was taught but sometimes games dont mimick real life. not all planes recover from spins..in real life the P39 was bad for that and tumbling. but some down elevator should take you out of a flat....but did also hear dropping gear might drop the nose...worth a try to keep from going SPLAT!
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