[MikkOwl]

nobody owns the rights to basketball

I mean a game as in console or PC. What would you think if they made such demands?

games are meant to be, to have fun with, though if you want to hack the game, then that just plain warrants every response they get.

I mean literally just a publisher or sponsor that says that a certain group are not allowed to play it (Asians in this case). Not that they did anything special to warrant it. What would you think if they made such demands?

A game is need to go to the toot? you need to get out some more

You misread: It says that the license agreement of the game says that you may not go to the bathroom (when the game is running or whatever, imagine any details). Yes, I know it's silly and could never happen in a million years, but the concept still applies.

Hyperlobby barred a whole country - Brazil - because of hackers.. now that must have been fun for the guys there who just wanted to play through it, eh?

Hyperlobby is a stand alone program made by some private individual. It is unethical of whoever controls Hyperlobby to punish (potentially) millions of people due to the actions of perhaps a dozen, or a hundred. This is called collective punishment. Hyperlobby or Maddox Games should have come up with a better solution. Regarding the hacking itself, this case is cheating in a sport. Ruining the experience for others by doing so. And that is unethical.

As you can see, you misunderstood what the analogies were, so I'm sure you will change your opinion about them now (and try to justify them if you wish).

I'm sorry, but it is idiots like you Mikkowl (your mindset that thinks everyone should be able to do whatever they want with a game/ sim/ hardware, regardless of the developer's/ owner's hard work, that will have games/ hardware forced to an online connection just so people can play and have fun... too bad for those who (for whatever reason) don't have a connection.

No one is forcing them to do that, not hackers nor pirates, or users of TrackIR dynamic library files. I myself (and other customers) are discouraged rather from buying games that require annoying anti-measures. There's several companies that understand that user made content can be a gold mine for sales, and that anti-stuff is annoying to consumers, and they don't implement them. Bethesda (Morrowind, Fallout 3) and Paradox Games (Hearts of Iron & Europa Universalis), as well as Starbreeze Studios (Chronicles of Riddick) all don't use any anti-copy stuff, and I'm going to buy Hearts of Iron 3 soon largely in part to this.

Flanker35M wrote:
Going to level of personal insult..huh!! IBTL..

Shush, we don't need any of that and for the record, moderators who lock topics instead of cleaning them are not doing their job properly. I took the responsibility of moderating a forum (Richard Burns Rally, hardcore rally sim) some years ago and I think I did an excellent job. Never locked a topic once due to what some members wrote in it (assuming the topic was valid to begin with). It helped atmosphere and people getting a long a lot too, because people were singled out and held accountable for their misdeeds.

sigur_ros wrote:
All Freetrack does is exercise the right to participate in a free market. NaturalPoint, like any good business, don't like competition that undermines their exclusive business model. But their response shows little confidence in the technological superiority and slick marketing of their product, treating a webcam with some free software as a serious threat. They have made piracy claims, censored forums, encrypted the interface and influenced developers, only trying to hurt the free market.

I think it is a serious threat. What if almost no one knew of FreeTrack, and/or it barely worked except mouse emulation with most titles, requiring lots of time to set up right and all that. That'd be extremely good for NaturalPoint sales.

I have a TrackIR 5 and I absolutely love it. But it was really extremely expensive for what it probably costs to make, and for what functionality I could make myself with much cheaper ingredients. I don't regret getting it (except that shitty TrackClip Pro) and it surely delivers much better performance than anything much cheaper currently available. I think it is the cost (probably massive profit margains) that they are trying to protect, not so much faith in their good hardware. As good as the hardware is, the cost cannot be justified for everyone, versus a much cheaper home made model.

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

[...] But of course, that requires MUCH more initiative and creativity than just demanding from others do the job or ranting and insulting other people.

Feuerfalke, I think you might have confused together parts of his post - part of it was my text and part was his reply to it. Since he did not use the quote function it is not entirely apparent who wrote what. Unless it is merely I who is confused by your post