That's right!! I don't know about E, but I use all the rest of them. The trick is knowing where the "balance" point of your plane is. The 47 will turn pretty damn good using the rudder! I just did it today against a K-4 and was GAINING on it! It takes some practise. In stunt terms, using rudder at the top of a climb and applying full throttle is called a hammerhead. It works well in arcade mode. Applying up elevator and rudder simultainiously produces a snap roll. I haven't tried that yet. The "slipping" in a turn to get your nose ahead of your opponents works! Unfortunately, my aim is the worst of my problems and I miss all the damn time!!!!!!!!!!!

The key to getting the "balance" right is practise and flying the same mount. If you keep switching planes, you'll never get the best from any of 'em.

If you use rudder to turn tighter, the aircrafts wings will not be perpendiclar to the ground. If they are, you WILL stall. The wings are about 45 to 60 degrees to the ground, and that's where your "balance" is. Tip the wings over further, you stall. As you get in the turn, keep pulling the elevator farther and farther back, keeping the plane "balanced". It turns tighter and tighter. How tight depends on physics and gravity! And keep the throttle up! You will lose speed and get outturned anyway because your opponent is turning faster.

Go into practise in your favorite mount. Put yourself up against the best turning planes. 5 or 6 of them. Figure out how to stay with them. I don't use it all the time. It depends on the situation and what I'm in and what I'm up against.

Oh, and I'm NOT one the best aces! So I might be full of shit.