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fuzzychickens 07-26-2009 07:18 PM

G940 would be a treat for the hardcore
 
Any chance of supporting this beast on the PS3/360?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/ga.../5855&cl=us,en

I used to have a hotas cougar, rudder pedals (simped), and custom work done to it. Eventually the cougar died and my former gaming PC is toast.

My PS3 will be getting BOP in it, it will be downright awesome if you supported the G940. Then I could get the full flight sim experience without dropping an obscene amount of money like I did with the cougar and a new PC.

guiltyspark 07-26-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzychickens (Post 84217)
Any chance of supporting this beast on the PS3/360?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/ga.../5855&cl=us,en

I used to have a hotas cougar, rudder pedals (simped), and custom work done to it. Eventually the cougar died and my former gaming PC is toast.

My PS3 will be getting BOP in it, it will be downright awesome if you supported the G940. Then I could get the full flight sim experience without dropping an obscene amount of money like I did with the cougar and a new PC.

the flight stick is 300 bucks

thats an obscene amount of money

and alot of its features are useless for this game , you dont need dual engine support

fuzzychickens 07-26-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 84233)
the flight stick is 300 bucks

thats an obscene amount of money

and alot of its features are useless for this game , you dont need dual engine support

300 is hardly an obscene amount for a proper HOTAS with rudder pedals setup. It's easy to spend way more than that - esp for a pc setup considering all the options.

Also, the split throttle isn't useless - you can map one of them for flaps, prop pitch, and whatever else you feel like mapping it too.

If you've ever flown something like CH products fighter stick with rudder pedals on IL2 and then used a cheap 40 dollar joystick to fly - you'd know that it costs more than 40 bucks to get a decent flight control setup. It's easily the difference between shooting someone down and getting shot down when you don't have the extra precision and control.

guiltyspark 07-26-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzychickens (Post 84243)
300 is hardly an obscene amount for a proper HOTAS with rudder pedals setup. It's easy to spend way more than that - esp for a pc setup considering all the options.

Also, the split throttle isn't useless - you can map one of them for flaps, prop pitch, and whatever else you feel like mapping it too.

If you've ever flown something like CH products fighter stick with rudder pedals on IL2 and then used a cheap 40 dollar joystick to fly - you'd know that it costs more than 40 bucks to get a decent flight control setup. It's easily the difference between shooting someone down and getting shot down when you don't have the extra precision and control.

you are assuming that there will be customization of controls in this game , there wont be.

The stick you posted is for professional flight simmers and maybe il2 on PC

all that is needed for il2 birds of prey is a ace edge stick or an aviator

not that many commands

fuzzychickens 07-27-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 84244)
you are assuming that there will be customization of controls in this game , there wont be.

The stick you posted is for professional flight simmers and maybe il2 on PC

all that is needed for il2 birds of prey is a ace edge stick or an aviator

not that many commands

The ace edge is 200 bucks, lower quality, and has no rudder pedals. In my opinion, the G940 is a much better value at 300 with pedals, hall sensors, and programable buttons.

In my experience with IL2 1949 players - many of them used full on HOTAS setups with rudder pedals - pedals make gunnery in WWII sims much more precise (rudder control is critical).

All that is needed is support and guess what - the other "G" product enjoys support in Gran Turismo Prologue - if anything could be considered a more realistic sim than GT5 - it would have to be IL2 - they've already said things like prop pitch and flaps will be controllable - doesn't seem to me it will be getting dumbed down THAT much.

guiltyspark 07-27-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzychickens (Post 84249)
The ace edge is 200 bucks, lower quality, and has no rudder pedals. In my opinion, the G940 is a much better value at 300 with pedals, hall sensors, and programable buttons.

In my experience with IL2 1949 players - many of them used full on HOTAS setups with rudder pedals - pedals make gunnery in WWII sims much more precise (rudder control is critical).

All that is needed is support and guess what - the other "G" product enjoys support in Gran Turismo Prologue - if anything could be considered a more realistic sim than GT5 - it would have to be IL2 - they've already said things like prop pitch and flaps will be controllable - doesn't seem to me it will be getting dumbed down THAT much.

prop pitch will be done automatically. And there are no black outs and redouts. This really is just going to be the Il2 flight engine with some upgrades , a storyline , and incredible graphics. With alot less depth even in simulation mode. you can not control the really in depth "simmy" stuff like fuel mixure and so forth.

BTW rudder pedals are not really a deciding feature considering the rudder axis on the throttle on the ace edge is just as good if not better and more convienient.

fuzzychickens 07-27-2009 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 84251)
prop pitch will be done automatically. And there are no black outs and redouts. This really is just going to be the Il2 flight engine with some upgrades , a storyline , and incredible graphics. With alot less depth even in simulation mode. you can not control the really in depth "simmy" stuff like fuel mixure and so forth.

BTW rudder pedals are not really a deciding feature considering the rudder axis on the throttle on the ace edge is just as good if not better and more convienient.

LOL - if you have ever tried a decent set of rudder pedals in IL-2, you wouldn't be saying a rudder axis on a throttle was even close to acceptable.

Somewhere on this forum, it was stated that prop pitch and flaps were controllable in sim difficulty settings.

xNikex 07-27-2009 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzychickens (Post 84259)
Somewhere on this forum, it was stated that prop pitch and flaps were controllable in sim difficulty settings.

It was.

guiltyspark 07-27-2009 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzychickens (Post 84259)
LOL - if you have ever tried a decent set of rudder pedals in IL-2, you wouldn't be saying a rudder axis on a throttle was even close to acceptable.

Somewhere on this forum, it was stated that prop pitch and flaps were controllable in sim difficulty settings.

nope , only flaps

hdcase 07-27-2009 04:11 AM

The Ace Combat joystick may be worth more now but when it came out it was $90 (that and the game was $150). Not cheap but not bank breaking either.


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