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torquemada 11-14-2012 11:43 AM

Spider army?
 
Has anyone had the same idea? There are some fantastic spider artifacts out there which sparked my interest. There might be a problem filling your army with spiders, perhaps spiders+snakes would be fun too.

Mandea 11-14-2012 11:56 AM

I tried that once in AP, it was fun. but it' wasn't viable for the final battles.

Nevar 11-14-2012 11:59 AM

I've always wanted to do it,but I've never come across that one playthrough where I have all of the spider items. There ARE actually enough spiders in the game now to have a full spider army, but unfortunately, 2/5 do poison damage, which sucks against undead, and other things.

Snake/Spider might be fun, but without the Frog Princess from TL I don't think it's all that impressive.

dainbramage 11-14-2012 01:07 PM

In TL, +100% attack wasn't impressive when added to the 4 base attack of spiders, she was only worthwhile for royals IMO. Certainly not compared to items introduced in AP like s'karrash, and still generally inferior to xeona's weapon slots.

gempepaine 11-14-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevar (Post 481088)
I've always wanted to do it,but I've never come across that one playthrough where I have all of the spider items. There ARE actually enough spiders in the game now to have a full spider army, but unfortunately, 2/5 do poison damage, which sucks against undead, and other things.

Snake/Spider might be fun, but without the Frog Princess from TL I don't think it's all that impressive.

If you want to give it a try with a spider/snake army but you miss the Frog Princess , you can recreate her from one of the Valkyrie.


You extract the file valkyres.txt from ses.kfs and copy it in the sessions\addon\mods directory.

Now let's take Christa. This is just an example . At level 5 when she is appointed senior valkyrie , gives bonus 25% more gold from treasure chests

children=
mods {
sp_addgold_chest=count,25
}

propbits=usable,wife

But if you replace that, with this :

children=
fight {
{
filter {
belligerent=ally
unit=spider_venom,spider_fire,spider,snake_royal,s nake_green,snake
}
pbonus=attack,0,100,0,-100,0,0
dbonus=
rbonus=
attack_on=
attack_off=
}
}

propbits=usable,wife

she will now give 100% attack bonus to spider,venom spider,fire spider,royal snake, green snake and snake.
For a new description of her ability you will need to modify some file in loc_ses.kfs otherwise the game will still display the old description even the bonus to snake/spiders will be applied.

Nevar 11-14-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gempepaine (Post 481136)
If you want to give it a try with a spider/snake army but you miss the Frog Princess , you can recreate her from one of the Valkyrie.


You extract the file valkyres.txt from ses.kfs and copy it in the sessions\addon\mods directory.

Now let's take Christa. This is just an example . At level 5 when she is appointed senior valkyrie , gives bonus 25% more gold from treasure chests

children=
mods {
sp_addgold_chest=count,25
}

propbits=usable,wife

But if you replace that, with this :

children=
fight {
{
filter {
belligerent=ally
unit=spider_venom,spider_fire,spider,snake_royal,s nake_green,snake
}
pbonus=attack,0,100,0,-100,0,0
dbonus=
rbonus=
attack_on=
attack_off=
}
}

propbits=usable,wife

she will now give 100% attack bonus to spider,venom spider,fire spider,royal snake, green snake and snake.
For a new description of her ability you will need to modify some file in loc_ses.kfs otherwise the game will still display the old description even the bonus to snake/spiders will be applied.

WOW. That's... Wow. Thank you for this!

Edit: @dainbramage: Well yeah, Xeona's kind of the ultimate wife, in my opinion.

travelingoz 11-14-2012 05:16 PM

It may be fun to try with those new ice spider units.... they do some serious damage!

ckdamascus 11-14-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelingoz (Post 481158)
It may be fun to try with those new ice spider units.... they do some serious damage!

They are VERY good but cannot be resurrected by Paladins it seems. Who else can resurrect it? :(

I wish they didn't change the old Crossworlds Rune Mage. :(

travelingoz 11-14-2012 05:35 PM

Ice Snake Spell will and so can Demonologists. Not sure about sacrifice.......

Razorflame 11-14-2012 05:58 PM

i think it still viable without the frog wife

if u have the poison dagger and demon whip(which is incredible for low level stacks in big numbers


gradually increasing their damage;)

royal snake+ice spider+fire spider

:D


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