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gunnyhighway 11-13-2012 10:17 AM

Why does dispell remove friendly buffs?
 
I hate that I end up removing stone skin when I am trying to dispell curses :[

Why?

Mandea 11-13-2012 10:29 AM

as far as I remember, at level 3 you no longer have this problem.

Kel 11-13-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandea (Post 480680)
as far as I remember, at level 3 you no longer have this problem.

Yes, at level 3 it only removes negative effects from friendly units.

Xargon 11-13-2012 12:47 PM

One of the main reasons for lvl3 order magic :D

Fatt_Shade 11-13-2012 01:00 PM

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I hate that I end up removing stone skin when I am trying to dispell curses :[
Why?
It says so in spell description :
1 lvl - remove all buff from friendly unit
2 lvl - remove buffs from friendly or enemy unit
3 lvl - remove negative buff from friendly units, or positive buff from enemy unit.
So to keep positive buffs on your units, get it to 3 lvl.

Handel 11-13-2012 08:51 PM

Besides the goblin shaman spell "Leech of life" or something like this:-(

Zechnophobe 11-13-2012 09:37 PM

There are a few times you need to use Dispel rank 1 or 2. Some effects are considered unfriendly that are, and vice versa. For instance any 'domination' effect will be considered unfriendly, but the target will be considered friendly to its new orientation. So if your stack is dominated, it will be an enemy. And level 3 dispel removes GOOD things from BAD people. But the effect is considered a BAD thing on a BAD person and so is unaffected.

Xargon 11-14-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Handel (Post 480897)
Besides the goblin shaman spell "Leech of life" or something like this:-(

You can dispel it on an enemy troop that has at least one other buff/debuff. It just does not show up as a viable target if it has only threads of life on it. So a workaround is to cast an auxiliary debuff at the enemy unit and the dispel it (not sure about dispel lvl3, it works with lvl2).

ckdamascus 11-14-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xargon (Post 481030)
You can dispel it on an enemy troop that has at least one other buff/debuff. It just does not show up as a viable target if it has only threads of life on it. So a workaround is to cast an auxiliary debuff at the enemy unit and the dispel it (not sure about dispel lvl3, it works with lvl2).

Nice tip! I thought about dispelling it from the enemy but he didn't have a debuff!

Once again, orcs manage to be a pain in the butt... :)

Xargon 11-14-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ckdamascus (Post 481117)
Nice tip! I thought about dispelling it from the enemy but he didn't have a debuff!

Once again, orcs manage to be a pain in the butt... :)

Yes, it still is a pain in the butt... probably even more so if you are not playing a soothsayer - it's more reasonable if you are able to cast both spells in one round, as long as the fight is not so hard that you have to cast other vital spells. But then again, thread of life seems to be supposed to bind friendly units together, so it will hopefully get patched sooner or later.


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