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ckdamascus 11-08-2012 04:23 AM

Proper Path before Demonis?
 
I can probably clear Greenwort, Vernlon, and Arlania (I think I have the Freedom Isle maps already too and Merlasser?).

It just looks like it would take a little bit of time.

Should I do all of them before Demonis?

I don't know if there are any "easy battles" I should save. I didn't use a scanner if one exists.

aka like Skull of Pain sort of items? (actually, being a warrior, it is best served in the normal form).

I'm trying to religiously use up all my valkyrie skills to get the last medal, but honestly it seems like they just ask for more battles the more you use them? :)

Thanks in advance!

Zechnophobe 11-08-2012 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ckdamascus (Post 478767)
I can probably clear Greenwort, Vernlon, and Arlania (I think I have the Freedom Isle maps already too and Merlasser?).

It just looks like it would take a little bit of time.

Should I do all of them before Demonis?

I don't know if there are any "easy battles" I should save. I didn't use a scanner if one exists.

aka like Skull of Pain sort of items? (actually, being a warrior, it is best served in the normal form).

I'm trying to religiously use up all my valkyrie skills to get the last medal, but honestly it seems like they just ask for more battles the more you use them? :)

Thanks in advance!

Man, That valkyrie medal. Ugh. It's incredibly powerful, but you have to check after each fight if you want to get it as fast as possible. Or I guess you could keep track or something, but that's also annoying.

I don't think you need to do everything pre-demonis. It seemed doable before then. I just hate the idea of missing out on stuff, y'know?

marc 11-08-2012 07:56 AM

The stacks in Demonis and Hades are way, way higher than the freedom isles ones. This suggests you should probably clean the isles first. I left some parts of the isles uncleared and they're all very weak to me (on impossible difficulty) after Demonis.

Karlos 11-08-2012 07:56 AM

I cleared Freedom Islands after Demonis and all fights (except the heros) were easy or very easy. And I also had some trouble in Demonis, a few deadly fights and so on. So I guess the Islands are meant to be explored beforehand, to help you level up a bit. Same goes for the main continent, seems to me it should be cleared before Demonis as well.

As for Merlassar that's a higher level area if I remember correctly, so you can explore before Demonis but I wouldn't start any fights :)

Zechnophobe 11-08-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlos (Post 478799)
I cleared Freedom Islands after Demonis and all fights (except the heros) were easy or very easy. And I also had some trouble in Demonis, a few deadly fights and so on. So I guess the Islands are meant to be explored beforehand, to help you level up a bit. Same goes for the main continent, seems to me it should be cleared before Demonis as well.

As for Merlassar that's a higher level area if I remember correctly, so you can explore before Demonis but I wouldn't start any fights :)

Merlassar was much lower level than Demonis. Fights there were strong/very strong while Demonis was Deadly/invincible.

Xargon 11-08-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zechnophobe (Post 478775)
Man, That valkyrie medal. Ugh. It's incredibly powerful, but you have to check after each fight if you want to get it as fast as possible. Or I guess you could keep track or something, but that's also annoying.

I don't think you need to do everything pre-demonis. It seemed doable before then. I just hate the idea of missing out on stuff, y'know?

Ah, crap. I just realized I'm an idiot: I assumed the "rest time" that is reduced by the medals would be that of the valkyrie dialogue abilities - and consequently thought this medal was next to pointless, as those increase their recharge times with each use (and are not very useful apart from Hilda and possibly the last valkyrie). So back to getting it higher than lvl1...

So noone has found an item related to number of battles? Whenever I see a weak or very weak stack, I leave it for rage recharge or item battles...

Nevar 11-08-2012 09:05 AM

Wait, what does the Valkyrie medal ACTUALLY do? I also thought like Xargon did, given how it says "rest in between battles."

ckdamascus 11-08-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevar (Post 478828)
Wait, what does the Valkyrie medal ACTUALLY do? I also thought like Xargon did, given how it says "rest in between battles."

If you use a Valkyrie for their ability, they say "can't ask me again in 15 battles". Or something.

The lvl 2 medal lowers this by 1 to 14.

However, I can't see the current tick, or remember how many rounds it was the LAST time I asked. I swear the number of rounds they say changes each time to something higher...

ckdamascus 11-08-2012 01:41 PM

Anyway, yeah I'm getting super impatient now and I think I will run a lighter army and just strategically kill "invincible" armies for now.

Just ran to the Freedom isles and it seems that I "overpowered" armies in Greenwort that I wasn't supposed to.

I think the path was supposed to be explore any of the islands like Freedom Isle and Merlasser to get the army type you want and level up.

Crossworld's "problem" was the maps were pretty rigid and if you got unlucky you couldn't get a certain race/army at all until it was too late or got lucky with a beatable "Impossible" map guardian that was non-jukable.

Zechnophobe 11-08-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ckdamascus (Post 478926)
Anyway, yeah I'm getting super impatient now and I think I will run a lighter army and just strategically kill "invincible" armies for now.

Just ran to the Freedom isles and it seems that I "overpowered" armies in Greenwort that I wasn't supposed to.

I think the path was supposed to be explore any of the islands like Freedom Isle and Merlasser to get the army type you want and level up.

Crossworld's "problem" was the maps were pretty rigid and if you got unlucky you couldn't get a certain race/army at all until it was too late or got lucky with a beatable "Impossible" map guardian that was non-jukable.

It's a weird thing. You lose all your viking units in the Dark Portal incident, but then get a pretty large selection. Just do the 'port' question from the guy as soon as you arrive in Greenwort, and that'll give you a boat to explore these other lands with. No problemo.

I may actually have to try playing through using Orcs. See how that goes.


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