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*Buzzsaw* 09-16-2012 12:30 AM

Forget about the SU-26, Fix the Flight Models
 
Salute

I read in Luthier's comments that:

Quote:

the most commonly asked questions are:

.....various technical.....

and...

4) What’s the status of the Su-26 and the SDKs?
Who is reading the forums????

The most common issue brought up on these forums is the poor modelling of the real BoB aircraft.

Ie. the Spitfires, Hurricanes, 109's, etc.

Please don't waste time to include an aircraft which had NOTHING to do with the actual battle and devote the team's energy to fixing the planes which actually fought.

Thankyou

SlipBall 09-16-2012 07:15 AM

All in all I think the planes are very good, but are going to see a few changes with the patch.

planespotter 09-16-2012 07:33 AM

Certainly the Desastersoft crew don't see a problem. And they are both independent and experts.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3644748

But this I agree...who cares about Su26! Fix other broken stuff first...like AI.

SlipBall 09-16-2012 07:42 AM

We have seen in the recent past the devs cave to pressure of a few loud voices. The aircraft being change to a unhistorical state ie. RPM guage. So is this what the community as a whole wants, I don't think so. Alot of the aircraft complaints can be traced to flying them incorectly, and I think the devs are taking a look at the speeds etc. :)

Ploughman 09-16-2012 08:20 AM

Does it have to be either or? Can't it be both?

Attila 09-16-2012 08:40 AM

Nobody needs a su-26!

senseispcc 09-16-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ploughman (Post 461419)
Does it have to be either or? Can't it be both?

Stop criticizing be constructive and help build something in place of only seeing what is not working see what is working 99% of the game is working ! Example the bad weather does not work think about it and most of the flying was done in good weather and bad weather flying is not a fun thing to do. Another example; your Spitfire is to slow at 17.000 fts it lacks 5 kph maybe you need to trim it better a little rudder trim does a lot to improve the speed of a plane. Be positive. And most of all do not forget this is a game not reality otherwise most of us should be dead all ready. And if you are still not happy there are many open source pc languages create your own air warfare simulation. :evil:

Kwiatek 09-16-2012 09:10 AM

+1000

Plz fix damn Flight Model and performacne of BOB planes.

If it have to be the last patch before sequel at least give us realistic and historical performacne of these planes and good flight model.

Most knwon isuses and bugs in FM code are:

- wrong Merlin engines ( MErlin III and Merlin XII) power settings not accurate with manuals ( for 87 octan version and 100 Octan) - including wrong RPMs settings, wrong mixture operation, too fast overheting and engine damage

- all planes are too slow expecially at the deck - British fighters are too slow ab. 30 mph ( it is funny when 100 Octan versions at emergency +12lbs boost reach only speed accurate for +6 1/4 lbs) and German 109s are too slow ab. 20-30 kph

- all planes have too low service celling

- 109 still have wrong slats working ( they open too late according to british test) and bad stall charactersitic

JG52Krupi 09-16-2012 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwiatek (Post 461425)
+1000

Plz fix damn Flight Model and performacne of BOB planes.

If it have to be the last patch before sequel at least give us realistic and historical performacne of these planes and good flight model.

Most knwon isuses and bugs in FM code are:

- wrong Merlin engines ( MErlin III and Merlin XII) power settings not accurate with manuals ( for 87 octan version and 100 Octan) - including wrong RPMs settings, wrong mixture operation, too fast overheting and engine damage

- all planes are too slow expecially at the deck - British fighters are too slow ab. 30 mph ( it is funny then 100 Octan versions at emergency +12lbs boost reach only speed accurate for +6 1/4 lbs) and German 109s are too slow ab. 20-30 kph

- all planes have too low service celling

- 109 still have wrong slats working ( they open too late according to british test) and bad stall charactersitic

Agreed, if you want to give us a new aircraft give us the Beaufighter or the gladiator and CR42

Ploughman 09-16-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senseispcc (Post 461424)
Stop criticizing be constructive and help build something in place of only seeing what is not working see what is working 99% of the game is working ! Example the bad weather does not work think about it and most of the flying was done in good weather and bad weather flying is not a fun thing to do. Another example; your Spitfire is to slow at 17.000 fts it lacks 5 kph maybe you need to trim it better a little rudder trim does a lot to improve the speed of a plane. Be positive. And most of all do not forget this is a game not reality otherwise most of us should be dead all ready. And if you are still not happy there are many open source pc languages create your own air warfare simulation. :evil:

Your response makes no sense considering what I wrote.


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