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5./JG27.Farber 04-13-2012 05:21 PM

Correct Aircraft Service Years and Numbers
 
Hello.

Can anyone tell me when the following aircraft entered service in any great numbers? Ive tried looking it up but its kind of sketchy.

Hurricane DH 5-20 (I?)
Hurricane Rotol (Ia?)

Spitfire I
Spitfire Ia
SpitfireIIa

109 E1
109 E3
109 E3b
109 E4
109 E4b

110 C4
110 C7

Many thanks.

csThor 04-13-2012 05:33 PM

E-1 - production began in January 1939
E-3 - production began in late 1939
E-4 - production began in spring 1940 (with the great majority of previous versions being re-equipped with MG-FF/M and relabeled E-4)

In August 1940 the majority of subtypes were already of the E-4 and E-1 type.

5./JG27.Farber 04-13-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 408739)
E-1 - production began in January 1939
E-3 - production began in late 1939
E-4 - production began in spring 1940 (with the great majority of previous versions being re-equipped with MG-FF/M and relabeled E-4)

In August 1940 the majority of subtypes were already of the E-4 and E-1 type.

Post 1000 :-P

Ermm year but just becasue they are in production doesnt mean they are on the front.

So in the BoB they were generally E1 and E4 then?

csThor 04-13-2012 06:03 PM

Correct. There were only 250 E-4 produced in factories but there were a lot more "in the field" since the earlier versions were reequipped and relabeled as E-4. I think Kurfy had some hard numbers on E-1 v s E-3 vs E-4, but I can't find it ATM.

5./JG27.Farber 04-13-2012 06:08 PM

So really its impossible to say when retrofitted aircraft and how many where in front line service... - This will be why I can't find the dates!

Nuts.

Ok what about the allies?

_79_dev 04-13-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 408759)

So in the BoB they were generally E1 and E4 then?


This forum has lots of info

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tle-29674.html

bolox 04-13-2012 08:21 PM

hurri production- should be detailed enough;)
http://www.k5083.mistral.co.uk/APS.HTM

spit production- not quite so good on dates
http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/production.htm

spitII
http://spitfiresite.com/2012/01/spit...i-details.html

NZtyphoon 04-13-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bolox (Post 408854)
hurri production- should be detailed enough;)
http://www.k5083.mistral.co.uk/APS.HTM

spit production- not quite so good on dates
http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/production.htm

spitII
http://spitfiresite.com/2012/01/spit...i-details.html

Spitfire IA was retrospectively applied to Spitfires with 8 x .303s when the Hispano IB - started trials with 19 Sqn in July 1940; before that all were Spitfire Is.
First Spitfire I in service was the third off the production line:

K9789 Ia 3 EA MII 19S Duxford 4-8-38 intensive service trials 4MU VA stripped for detailed exam MMO rep 11-9-39 9MU 10-1-40 65S 27-2-40 8MU 5-7-40 PRU 11-7-40 FACA 1-8-40 57OTU 28-11-40 FAAC 13-1-41 Westland 33MU 19-5-41 61OTU 22-11-41 FACB 7-4-42 ros 45MU 14-12-42 to 359M 14-12-44 2SoTT SOC

http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/p001.htm

5./JG27.Farber 04-14-2012 11:48 AM

So there was only Spit I until July 1940 then they became the Spit Ia? The difference is the prop pitch isnt it? But you mention cannons.

bolox 04-14-2012 12:58 PM

1/1a is purely naming convention to differentiate them from the 1b cannon armed spits, so at a stroke of a pen spit 1 became 1a.
CSP modification is not related to mark #, rather part of ongoing improvements program, but as the 2 occurred at ~ the same time.....


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